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IMPORTANT POLL: Should there be an off-topic section?

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m k:
It's not our hierarchy, it's maintenance hierarchy.

AVGresponding:

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--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on September 11, 2022, 11:34:21 am ---And can we now stop this please and get back on what this thread is about.

Do we want a new section to post non electronics related topics in or not.

I wonder if a change of the original post with the latest view on it being for other hobbies only, and still no politics, religion and guns, can help in making a more founded decision.

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I'd change "guns" to "weaponry", otherwise you'd likely get some smartass posting about crossbows, combat knives or somesuch and saying "it's not a gun, so I can post about it".

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Pens can be more devastating than swords, and thats without using them as a stiletto.

When rules become explicity codified in writing, barrack room lawyers and officious busybodies have a field day.

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Extend that argument to its logical conclusion and we should have no codified rules at all.

If someone uses a pen to stab someone, they are by definition using it as a weapon. If someone uses a pen to write rhetoric that incites people to violence, again, it's being weaponised. If we say discussion about weaponry is not allowed, then the logical assumption is that discussing how to stab someone with a pen, or how to trigger a riot by writing inflammatory things, would be against the rules.
Equally, a discussion about how to use a pen to provide a breathing tube in an ad hoc trachaeostomy, or how to write a letter designed to calm an angry argument, would not be forbidden.

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That is the approach promoted by anacharists. It is beguiling to 6th formers (i.e. 16-8yo UK schoolchildren), but a little consideration leads people to realise it is immensely destructive.

The trick is to find the right balance between rigidmrules and anarchy. That requires humility and wisdom, both rare attributes.

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Something we find in great abundance, in the people actually responsible for making the rules.

Oh, wait...

m k:
Maintenance Hierarchy would also enable all kind of niche sections, like Hanging Ministers.

Possible hot section would be Thread Topicness and Section Hierarchy Issues.

RJSV:
   A couple hours, (or several), viewing the posts that stray OFF-TOPIC, in 'Energy Armageddon', it just seems like a pile of partial excursions into distractions, partial personal slurs, indecipherable sarcasm, and almost no electronic supply-chain.
   I believe that's a mess, for the moderators, (and that's only my posts...lol).  Moderators, I bet, don't really want to wade into a big mass of upset, slandering or 'partial' slanders...whatever that is.  Then, they (Moderators) have to face all manner of criticism, like:
   "I tried to mention the evil, of the fat slobs, in Lower Slabikia, and the Mods were UNFAIR, and deleted my rants..."   ...(sigh).
   That's a lot of work, sorting thru all those non-topic posts.  And, I've been guilty of doing that, trying the limits, boundaries of what can be posted.

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: m k on September 13, 2022, 05:17:40 pm ---Maintenance Hierarchy would also enable all kind of niche sections, like Hanging Ministers.

Possible hot section would be Thread Topicness and Section Hierarchy Issues.

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As long as all the fiddlers and diddlers play there and not elsewhere, it would probably be good :)

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