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IMPORTANT POLL: Should there be an off-topic section?

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tautech:

--- Quote from: RJHayward on September 13, 2022, 08:19:44 pm ---   A couple hours, (or several), viewing the posts that stray OFF-TOPIC, in 'Energy Armageddon', it just seems like a pile of partial excursions into distractions, partial personal slurs, indecipherable sarcasm, and almost no electronic supply-chain.
   I believe that's a mess, for the moderators, (and that's only my posts...lol).  Moderators, I bet, don't really want to wade into a big mass of upset, slandering or 'partial' slanders...whatever that is.  Then, they (Moderators) have to face all manner of criticism, like:
   "I tried to mention the evil, of the fat slobs, in Lower Slabikia, and the Mods were UNFAIR, and deleted my rants..."   ...(sigh).
   That's a lot of work, sorting thru all those non-topic posts.  And, I've been guilty of doing that, trying the limits, boundaries of what can be posted.

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Yet it's still civil with punch and counter punch thrown, just as any good debate should be.
As the EU is the other side of the world to us in NZ I for one have learnt some from that thread from the differing POV's.

m k:
I think moderation is still very open issue, probably because its shape here is something else than what I thought.
But to get the correct response I believe a new thread must come from Dave.

I'd say that TE thread of 4x scope samples is a good example.
Dave is #79, OP thanked #11.

I'd say also that there community moderation failed.
Obviously no completely, but pretty much too slow it was.

Dedicated section moderator could have spotted the case earlier and moved the thread to beginners section, not because of OP but because of assumed answers in TE section.
The badge here is also not exactly moderator, maintenance is more accurate.

When I wrote this 90% of active forum hits was guests, is that a norm, I think it is.
Some are bots and some are like me who is usually surfing offline.
But some are later newbies, maintenance is also for them.

Is moderator a negative word?
East and west have different mind sets.
Eastern king was good for people, nobles were bad and every now and then king had to whip them.
Western king was with the nobles so nobody whipped them, occasionally Pope was also with them.

Some times people in the know have a feel to say it.
Not because of prestige or something like that, just shearing is enough.
Is there then any real differences if that continues after some maintenance operations.

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: m k on September 14, 2022, 08:56:01 am ---I'd say also that there community moderation failed.
Obviously no completely, but pretty much too slow it was.

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It worked well enough for a very long time.

History shows that all cooperative communities have occasional bust ups and schisms.

Nothing else works all the time.

Choose your poison wisely, and don't throw the baby out with the bathwater!

pcprogrammer:

--- Quote from: m k on September 14, 2022, 08:56:01 am ---.......

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I just looked at the thread you mentioned and this behavior can be seen a lot on this forum. The more established members do like their technical debates, without considering what the original poster needs to know.

At some point BillyO (message #45 and #74) tries to steer things a bit, but it does not help. Maybe because he is also a newbie? (36 posts) And this seems to be weighed on this forum, when looking at the recent discussions we had about for example the TEA thread.

But moderation on something like this is difficult. There is no real off topic drift, because it is all about the needed sample rate and bandwidth to reproduce a signal on a scope screen. So even for a more involved moderator it would be difficult to asses what is needed in this situation.

There is no 100% foolproof solution for the case at hand, and with that I mean the whole forum of course.

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on September 14, 2022, 09:53:19 am ---
--- Quote from: m k on September 14, 2022, 08:56:01 am ---.......

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I just looked at the thread you mentioned and this behavior can be seen a lot on this forum. The more established members do like their technical debates, without considering what the original poster needs to know.

At some point BillyO (message #45 and #74) tries to steer things a bit, but it does not help. Maybe because he is also a newbie? (36 posts) And this seems to be weighed on this forum, when looking at the recent discussions we had about for example the TEA thread.

But moderation on something like this is difficult. There is no real off topic drift, because it is all about the needed sample rate and bandwidth to reproduce a signal on a scope screen. So even for a more involved moderator it would be difficult to asses what is needed in this situation.

There is no 100% foolproof solution for the case at hand, and with that I mean the whole forum of course.

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Precisely, except...

Moderation on something like that is not "difficult", it is irrelevant. If someone wants such moderation, I would direct them to stakexchange or seaboard.

If such moderation ever became relevant, this forum would die, and would deserve to die!

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