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IMPORTANT POLL: Should there be an off-topic section?

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Bud:
Once flood gates are open, there will be people coming to use the space for pushing their agendas. Not casual discussions but  deliberate abuse of the platform. Because, you know, why not, if the opportunity is screaming. The nutters that truly believe this helps their party, their community, their country, you name it. I can't help but think  some are here already.

PlainName:

--- Quote ---But if you suddenly introduce politics in a sports bar you'll get bar fights and stabbings every night.
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Once again I am asking how come 'off topic' means 'political fighting'. There are other topics besides electronics and politics. You can certainly have an off-topic section and still mandate no politics (or the other stuff that quickly degenerates into a bunfight). You can even allow all those and still step in when it gets nasty.

I haven't marked the poll because I don't understand what's being asked. I thought it meant 'we can talk about random stuff, like painting walls and how to stop slugs eating the rhubard', but the way everyone is going on it means 'completely hands-off, moderators will be missing in action and you WILL be insulted enough to want to leave'.

So maybe someone can be clear about what this OT thing will actually be, and then we can vote from the position of knowledge.

Black Phoenix:

--- Quote from: bdunham7 on September 07, 2022, 02:53:16 pm ---There have already been otherwise intelligent, interesting and helpful members that are not here because of this, such as blueskull.  I'm not advocating much stricter control or moderation, but making even a specific area 'wide open' is likely to significantly change the overall character of the forum.

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OFFTOPIC
The case of him is different. We are talking about threats to people in the forum and Dave itself, as his brand and sponsors.

Plus he was tons of times warned regarding his stance when someone would talk about his home country. He could simply keep it quiet and silent, don't feed the noise but he always responded.

That's keyboard wars, you let them go if you want:


/OFFTOPIC

Regarding the issue in hand, from what I see in terms of offtopic (and I'm also one that sometimes fall in such) normally it tends to go to 3 or 4 posts and then tones down

Example - https://www.eevblog.com/forum/vintage-computing/orcad-for-msdos/msg4403527/

End of Page 3 to forward.

Am I OK with it? Yes because is not offensive, divisive or hostile. Mostly is fun "Watercooler talk" related with the subject in some way.

Now if it goes into political/religious/personal beliefs where people fell that it may affect them that's the problem, and then we go again to the top of this post.

That's keyboard wars, you let them go if you want.

If someone wants to stop the offtopic just do what I see being done in some posts, just finish it by going again on topic.

Now an IDEA: Dave and the SMF administration, is there any way of creating a function like the quote?

Like a quote one that is always hidden until someone clicks over it to show the contents. That way people could offtopic inside a topic and the thread would be minimised by default until you clicked on it, kinda like how Reddit does with the negative karma posts.

It minimize them with an indication of how negative they are and you click to read on them by your own choice. That way the thread would be on topic and further offtopic derived from the thread subject itself contained hidden until clicked.

Zoli:
The risk of the water-cooler talk to leak back in the normal forum is too big; unfortunately, I saw it too often. I suspect that what's happened with TEA(discord talk leaked back; I didn't participated in discord, I've read only references 'bout).
And it's easier to keep away water-cooler talk from the forum, then to prune it.
Just my 0.02$.

nctnico:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on September 07, 2022, 01:13:51 pm ---
--- Quote from: HighVoltage on September 07, 2022, 01:07:31 pm ---From what I have seen over the years, good people have been banned here too fast for small things.

--- End quote ---

It's always based on a consistent pattern of behaviour, and usually multiple user reports over a long period of time, and no willingness to stop.

--- End quote ---
Then again there are also those that like to bait people into such behaviour. It takes two to tango.

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