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| IMPORTANT POLL: Should there be an off-topic section? |
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| wilfred:
--- Quote from: Brumby on September 08, 2022, 06:47:05 am ---The total member count is a useless metric. I won't even try to explain why (just think about it for half a minute). The number of voters IS a significant number - because it represents a significant number of members that: 1. Are engaged here regularly enough to have been active since the poll's creation 2. Have come across the poll 3. Have had an opinion 4. They have expressed that opinion by voting From my observations, the number of members who recorded a vote in this one is better than a lot of polls. --- End quote --- Point 1. One does not need to be regularly engaged or active to vote. How is it known who voted? I don't see it. Points 2,3,and 4 are self-evident. A member who does not have an opinion and is ignorant of the poll cannot express an opinion by voting. Claiming this poll has greater participation than other polls is to damn it with faint praise. I would argue participation would need to be greater than 10% of members who've posted 10 times or more to be considered significant. And it isn't, not even close. I'm taking the 86 number as accurate since I don't see who or how few have voted. If it gets to 500 I'll be impressed. But I still won't think it significant. As far as I am concerned Dave can go ahead and create an off-topic section without polling at all. I almost wish he would just to get it over with. |
| beanflying:
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on September 08, 2022, 05:28:48 am ---Interesting how these things go. Getting a bit of a brexit vibe in the setup. The majority of the minority is voting against, (86 members out of 58490) based upon, what I think, mostly feelings like "I don't like change", but without taking the time to really think about it all. Also missing is a well laid out idea about what the vote is about, judging by the now changed title of the poll. Seen some good points in the comments here, like the section not being visible to "guests", so it does not become a magnet to attract the morons out there in the world. But a simple solution for the more established members is already there. The supporters lounge is a place where it is possible to create a thread to discuss what might be a bit sensitive. Take from it what you like. --- End quote --- You made an arrogant ASSERTION of fact (in your opinion) with NO evidence that the other members who voted 'did not take time think about it'. Don't be dismissive of what thought did or did not go into clicking on a poll by others! |
| Brumby:
--- Quote from: wilfred on September 08, 2022, 07:53:00 am ---Point 1. One does not need to be regularly engaged or active to vote. How is it known who voted? I don't see it. --- End quote --- Point 1 is also self-evident. Note, I used the phrase "regularly enough". Since the poll has not been up for 24 hours yet, if someone normally pops in every couple of days - or less frequently - they will not have had the chance to vote yet. There was never any suggestion that a member need to be "regularly engaged or active" to vote. |
| pcprogrammer:
--- Quote from: beanflying on September 08, 2022, 07:58:19 am ---You made an arrogant ASSERTION of fact (in your opinion) with NO evidence that the other members who voted 'did not take time think about it'. Don't be dismissive of what thought did or did not go into clicking on a poll by others! --- End quote --- And you just did the same by assuming otherwise and feeling the need to defend others from my statement. |
| Brumby:
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on September 08, 2022, 08:23:55 am ---And you just did the same by assuming otherwise --- End quote --- All Beanflying did was state your assertion was not based on any evidence. If you do have any hard evidence (and thoughtful musings are not) then we would be keen to hear it. --- Quote ---and feeling the need to defend others from my statement. --- End quote --- Again, he was just making it clear that what you said should not be accepted as fact. Some people will take such casual comments and run with them as if they were fact. Airing such unfounded opinions need to be challenged so as to avoid them gaining undeserved credibility. |
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