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Jackster:
Are there any open source projects for this with actual decent hardware?
Not talking 3d printed stuff.
Id love to get into an open source but decent hardware development program.
It can have a cloud service but also allow end users to host their own of they wish.
Would be nice to replace my crappy dumb thermostats with something that is not owned by Az or Google but actually looks nice.
tom66:
--- Quote from: Jackster on December 13, 2022, 11:10:52 pm ---Are there any open source projects for this with actual decent hardware?
Not talking 3d printed stuff.
Id love to get into an open source but decent hardware development program.
It can have a cloud service but also allow end users to host their own of they wish.
Would be nice to replace my crappy dumb thermostats with something that is not owned by Az or Google but actually looks nice.
--- End quote ---
I think the closest you get is buying Zigbee TRVs and tying them together with a Zigbee bridge running on a Raspberry Pi or similar, with some remote sensors thrown into the mix and some way to actuate a boiler control like with a relay. Or alter as appropriate for under floor heating, or heatpumps etc., as some of those devices have Zigbee capability.
Technically the tado sensors use 6-LoWPAN which is "open" insofar as it is documented, uses IPv6 under-the-hood and you can get it to work with a TI dev board... but I've no idea if there's some kind of encryption or authentication sitting over the protocol that would make control by non-tado systems a possibility. In my limited Googling, I haven't found anyone who has got this to work, so either it's not an interesting enough problem to solve (fair enough) or it's very difficult to solve (which means even if the protocol is somewhat open, the devices can still go obsolete - not good.)
Jackster:
I think obsolescence is one of those issues that will always be a problem with any smart device.
My current dumb thermostats, while might die in 5-15 years because of silicone/electronics death, won't become obsolete. There is no WiFi or networking that could become a vulnerability point. It just measures the temperature and operates a relay to call the heating.
As soon as you add something that is networked, you are guaranteeing hardware and software obsolescence.
If the software works 10 years down the road, the network and encryption might be broken by then and not something that can be fixed with a software update...
SiliconWizard:
All that shit is to make you more dependent, not less so. It's inherently biased towards that goal.
To me, technology should be used to help people get more independent, and more resilient. Not the other way around.
eti:
The day I trust IoT "smart" bollocks to turn on and off crucial things like machines containing ***heating elements*** and LOCKED DOORS behind which are my WORLDLY POSSESSIONS, will be a fine day indeed. In fact, said day will be the 12th of never, or if I'm busy, maybe later.
The public are exceptionally naive to place trust in these gimmicko-doodle-schmuck companies. Too many "opinions" from self-proclaimed "experts" in IT. They can all go #### themselves.
As has been implied, there's almost ZERO benefit to using this garbage, to the customer, and it ALL benefits the repeat sale and subscription model marketing dorks. Since when did humankind become THIS FRIGGIN IDIOTIC? Now, sadly, is when.
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