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Is a "Fly swatter" circuit appropriate for a cat?
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xrunner:
Heard once somewhere - don't remember where ...

Disciplining a dog vs. a cat

You see dog chewing on something you don't want it to chew on. You look at the dog and say "No No bad dog don't chew on that!"

You see a cat chewing on something you don't want it to chew on. You look in a mirror and say "No No bad human don't leave that thing out to be chewed on!"

 :-DD
Fraser:
The difference between a dog and cat in a domestic situation is well understood. A dog is a pack animal that wants to please the ‘top dog’ and actively looks for positive outcomes to its behaviour. As has been Said many times, there is no such thing as a “bad” dog, only a bad owner/guardian. A cat, on the other hand, has no true “need” of its human and can survive on its own in the wild. It tolerates a human companion because the human cares for it’s needs and gives it an easy life. I humanise cats and adore them. They detect my positive attitude towards them and reinforce it with nice gestures like ‘talking’, purring and snuggling. It is a win win situation for the cat and it’s human. The human gets a companion and the cat gets well cared for. I am not saying that a cat cannot, or does not, form a close bond to its chosen human, it is the reason for that bond that differs to dogs. Cats are truly amazing survivors and quickly become feral if abandoned as their killer instinct never leaves them, even when in a domestic environment. They are amazing animals and I love ours. The challenge and success of winning a cats affections can be really rewarding to its guardian. Never a dull moment with cats in your family unit.
Fraser:
One final thought….. if you saw a Tiger scratching the carpet and told it to stop ! …. Do you think it would obey ? A cat has the same personality as a Tiger and in its own head, it is just as capable. Why would it listen to us telling it to stop doing something that it wants to do ? :D It will only stop when it wants to, or fear is introduced to the equation to drive it off. Sadly inducing fear in a cat is a very tricky topic as such can lead to what some may consider animal abuse.
Gyro:
Well I've just got in from cutting the front lawn. Guess what, two more piles of cat shit since I cleaned up before cutting the hedge yesterday. Of course I didn't notice them until I'd been through them with the mower!

In my opinion, cat owners should be made to keep their little kitties inside, or at least on their property by whatever means. They should then be made to take them out for walks on leads in the pouring rain, and clean up after them like responsible dog owners are expected to do, rather than being snuggled up all nice and cozy and warm. They should also, like dog owners, be responsible for the damage that their pets do, accidents caused etc. I've had half a dozen dead Slow Worms in the back garden with their heads chewed off by little kitties for the fun of it, not to mention the newts, frogs and brids (are they not increasingly scarce and protected?)

An exterme view? Possibly, although I'm beginning to wonder, there are such things as house cats. I'm getting too old to be picking up other peoples' cat shit. As you can probably guess, I'm not a cat owner... but then I'm not a dog owner either.

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P.S. I'm the one who got an entire outraged WTF thread by tautech, in the Supporters Lounge, for very gently voicing my objection to dogs being electric shocked into attacking Wild Boar, so I don't think I can really be considered an animal hater!
Gyro:

--- Quote from: Fraser on November 13, 2022, 02:13:42 pm ---One final thought….. if you saw a Tiger scratching the carpet and told it to stop ! …. Do you think it would obey ? A cat has the same personality as a Tiger and in its own head, it is just as capable. Why would it listen to us telling it to stop doing something that it wants to do ? :D It will only stop when it wants to, or fear is introduced to the equation to drive it off. Sadly inducing fear in a cat is a very tricky topic as such can lead to what some may consider animal abuse.

--- End quote ---

Tigers, like all predators are intelligent enough to recognise a bigger predator and back off. Herbivores tend to fight to the death, carnivores fight enough to establish which is stronger and the loser makes for the horizon. I don't think they get their feeling hurt that easily, unless it's another trait that we've bred into the domestic moggie.

In the Tiger vs carpet case, you would clearly be the smaller / weaker predator.  ;)

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