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Is a "Fly swatter" circuit appropriate for a cat?
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Zero999:

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--- Quote from: DavidAlfa on November 14, 2022, 12:22:41 am ---Long time ago I had a cat with an obssesion of eating my shoes, tried lemon, spicy stuff, he just didn't care .
That motherfeecker even ate solid copper wire one day I was replacing a wall socket.
He was probably retarded, none of my other cats were like that, not even his brother, he was just the extra chromosome cat  ::)

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The condition is called Pica, I have a cat that occasionally eats wires too, he was much worse about it when he was young, I had to make sure I picked up my projects off the floor.

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Pica can also affect humans. It can be caused by lack of certain nutrients in the diet and is more common in pregnant women. Oddly enough, the typically substances eaten aren't high in the nutrient the person lacks.
CatalinaWOW:

--- Quote from: Zero999 on November 13, 2022, 10:19:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on November 13, 2022, 10:06:55 pm ---As someone who has no use for cats I simply don't understand the behavior of cat owners who disown any responsibility for the damaging behaviors of their pets.  I can understand and tolerate a truly feral cat who is truly living out natural behaviors, and taking the natural risks of living.  But the cat who is fed and protected from predators all day and then turned out to be "natural" against all the small critters in the neighborhood and to keep their home range clean by defecating at or beyond the boundaries of it's territory gets no sympathy from me.  I am more than willing to be the bigger, meaner predator.  They have no more rights to my property than the rats, mice and other vermin.

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Owner aside. The cat doesn't have human emotions or morals. It's an animal. A cat still has the same instincts as a wild animal and will continue to hunt because it's preprogrammed to enjoy it.

I don't know what the law is, where you live, but in the UK it's still illegal to harm someone else's pet, even if it's on your property without your consent.

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I know that cats will be cats.  I am speaking to the owners of cats.  They are the ones creating the situation by allowing/forcing the animal to live in an situation not balanced by the rules of tooth and claw.  In a natural environment an animal that over hunts it's range starved.  The problem is self correcting.  But a pet cat goes home and eats and continues hunting.  This general concept extends to many other cat behaviors.
Ed.Kloonk:

--- Quote from: jpanhalt on November 11, 2022, 08:05:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: tautech on November 11, 2022, 07:54:46 pm ---A kids water pistol is likely the very best deterrent.

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It can even be automated so you do not have to be there for the act.  Several YT videos on that.  One crazy funny one uses a water hose.  It is outdoor, of course.

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Gyro:
As the video clearly demonstrates that the cats will not learn after triggering the deterrent multiple times, the first trigger needs to be a more permanent learning experience.  >:D
paulca:

--- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on November 14, 2022, 09:44:08 am ---I know that cats will be cats.  I am speaking to the owners of cats.  They are the ones creating the situation by allowing/forcing the animal to live in an situation not balanced by the rules of tooth and claw.  In a natural environment an animal that over hints it's range starved.  The problem is self correcting.  But a pet cat goes home and eats and continues hunting.  This general concept extends to many other cat behaviors.

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That's all very well, but we don't really get the blame for cats.  Dogs yes, we bred them into domestication (although first we bred them for work).  Cats came along for the ride themselves.  Self-domesticating.

The explanations are varied.  Most believe it was when humans began to cultivate, farm and therefore store food.  You store food you attract vermin.  Birds and mice and other small critters.  Cats seen an opportunity. Hang around the humans it's a win, win, cats get food, humans get pest control.  The relationship has been functioning that way for 1000s of years.  I don't think you can really call them domestic though.  Maybe purely "house" cats, but I'm fairly sure the instinct to survive out there in the wild still exists in most of them.  Dogs... not so much.  They have been bred far and away from their natural form.  They have been heavily domesticed and stand very little chance out in the wild.

A lot of the small innocent little critters would not be there if humans had not moved in and brought their food stores, scraps, bins.  So the "natural" balance is skewed anyway.
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