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| Marco:
--- Quote from: Fred27 on November 15, 2022, 10:47:42 am ---You just have to see them torturing rodents for fun or aimlessly killing birds to realise that they're a huge net negative in the natural world. --- End quote --- No, they are a caricature of the natural world. Human intervention has given them slightly more room to spread misery and death than most normal predators, but it's just a matter of degree. Nature sucks. |
| eti:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on November 15, 2022, 11:53:53 am --- --- Quote from: Fred27 on November 15, 2022, 10:47:42 am ---I would never advocate cruelty to animals. However, cats are evil little douchebags and deserve everything they get. In fact, I find it odd that anyone who like animals can like domestic cats too. You just have to see them torturing rodents for fun or aimlessly killing birds to realise that they're a huge net negative in the natural world. --- End quote --- The problem is, you're projecting human emotions on to animals. Cats are no worse than other animals. Animals might look cute but they lack morals. Rats and mice for instance will eat one another. Birds will eat other birds. Other animals also kill others and don't eat them: wolves will kill coyotes and not eat them. What's controversial is keeping cats as pets. They can be a nuisance to other people and kill engendered species, but they also control harmful pests. There are things which cat owners can do to minimise the impact of their pets, such as keeping them in at night, but some consider that to be inhumane to the cat. --- End quote --- Anthropomorphising is a software glitch of the human firmware. It astounds me, how little people know about their pets and how they function. |
| aeberbach:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on November 13, 2022, 10:19:43 pm ---I don't know what the law is, where you live, but in the UK it's still illegal to harm someone else's pet, even if it's on your property without your consent. --- End quote --- Where I live local council encourages the capture of the cat, in a suitable cage (which I think they loan out, I have not asked), then the council animal officer comes and collects it. Owner pays a fine. |
| Marco:
--- Quote from: eti on November 16, 2022, 12:37:58 am ---Anthropomorphising is a software glitch of the human firmware. It astounds me, how little people know about their pets and how they function. --- End quote --- You can make a value judgement about animals without thinking they have a human capability to make moral decisions. Being an animal does not exempt a cat from being an evil little douchebag. They can't help it, but to an extent we can, at some point perhaps for all animals without destroying the ecosystem. Playing God. |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: Marco on November 16, 2022, 08:23:19 am --- --- Quote from: eti on November 16, 2022, 12:37:58 am ---Anthropomorphising is a software glitch of the human firmware. It astounds me, how little people know about their pets and how they function. --- End quote --- You can make a value judgement about animals without thinking they have a human capability to make moral decisions. Being an animal does not exempt a cat from being an evil little douchebag. They can't help it, but to an extent we can, at some point perhaps for all animals without destroying the ecosystem. Playing God. --- End quote --- Then perhaps humans are the biggest evil little douchebags on the planet, as we can help it. --- Quote from: aeberbach on November 16, 2022, 03:37:58 am --- --- Quote from: Zero999 on November 13, 2022, 10:19:43 pm ---I don't know what the law is, where you live, but in the UK it's still illegal to harm someone else's pet, even if it's on your property without your consent. --- End quote --- Where I live local council encourages the capture of the cat, in a suitable cage (which I think they loan out, I have not asked), then the council animal officer comes and collects it. Owner pays a fine. --- End quote --- It seems like a good idea in theory, but I find that hard to believe. I'm not aware of any laws preventing cats from going in other people's gardens and doubt the owner can be fined, unless it has damaged property or made a mess. I regularly get cats in my garden. I probably find a turd ones every two months but don't know for certain whether it's a cat's. How do they find the owner in order to fine him or her? --- Quote from: paulca on November 15, 2022, 12:11:32 pm ---I have tried hard to keep my cat an indoor-at-night cat. The plan was to never let her be out after dark, so she never got that drug in the first place. That of course didn't work. She managed to stay out all night several times and that was that over with. I often feel sorry for her, because she asks so desperately to get out after dark and looks so distraught when I tell her "no.". Most likely why she turns to me as a toy in the evenings. Although weirdly, she has started to tell me to go to bed! I think it's because she wants to be in the room with me, but as it's nighttime, she doesn't like the main lights on, she would prefer that I come and join her in the darkened bedroom where she is more comfortable. Cats are not free from predators in sub-urban and urban areas. A quite frighteningly large percentage of domestic cats are killed by their no. 1 predator. The family car. On keeping them in at night being "inhumane". I'd rather it not get run-over, but yes.. I have been looking for a robotics project with a purpose and having a few random toys around the place which spontaneously activate at night might benefit us both! Probably starting with a single servio attached to a laser pointer in the hallway. Mosfet to turn it off. Try and make it respond to the cat, but also be stuborn and not respond sometimes as well. My cat likes games. I feed her these jerky style treats, she goes NUTS for them. So i took to placing them just out of easy reach, or hiding them in hard to get to places. After a while the cat would start dropping the treat again and looking at me like the challenge I had set was too easy. The last one was thrown into a pile of cardboard boxes in the junk room. Took the cat half an hour to get in there and find it. --- End quote --- Cats can also be a pain for the owner when kept in overnight, but that's part of the responsibility of having them. My parents had two cats. They normally went out at night, but when kept inside, they would often run about the house. I would always keep my bedroom door closed to stop them from coming in and waking me up. |
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