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| Sal Ammoniac:
A flame thrower works well in this application. Collateral damage, however, is a bitch. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: Fred27 on November 15, 2022, 10:47:42 am ---I would never advocate cruelty to animals. However, cats are evil little douchebags and deserve everything they get. In fact, I find it odd that anyone who like animals can like domestic cats too. You just have to see them torturing rodents for fun or aimlessly killing birds to realise that they're a huge net negative in the natural world. --- End quote --- I think that most people that don't like cats have never taken the time to get to know one. Cats are introverts so it takes them a while to warm up to a person, and I can totally relate because I'm exactly the same way, my personality is very cat-like. My cats are very devoted to me and provide companionship without being clingy and dependent the way dogs are. They're self-cleaning and deposit their waste in a box so I never have to take them out. Rodents are nasty little parasites and cats getting rid of them is doing me a favor. My cats are indoor only so they don't bother the birds but frankly I'm not a big fan of birds either, they're noisy and they shit all over my car, I would much rather watch cats lounging in my garden than birds. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on November 16, 2022, 08:57:13 am ---Cats can also be a pain for the owner when kept in overnight, but that's part of the responsibility of having them. My parents had two cats. They normally went out at night, but when kept inside, they would often run about the house. I would always keep my bedroom door closed to stop them from coming in and waking me up. --- End quote --- They are highly adaptable. While naturally nocturnal, I've had cats my whole life and usually after a few months they have adjusted to sleeping most or all of the night and being more active in the day when I'm around. As they get older they typically get calmer and sleep more, just like old people. |
| CatalinaWOW:
Fraser, you are obviously a responsible cat owner. Not a surprise, you seem to do just about everything right. My definition of a feral cat is one that is living without being intentionally fed or sheltered by a human. In urban environments they are often called alley cats. They are not socialized to humans, though in some cases they can be. They are relatively infrequent in undeveloped areas because there are more predators and food sources are more difficult. Here in North America the most common cat eaters are coyotes, bobcats and some species of hawks and owls. These feral cats also exist in suburban environments, adapting to sheds, stoops, stored cars and other structures for shelter and dining on pet food intended for dogs and tame cats, as well as vermin, trash, small birds and anything else they find or can catch. If you haven't seen one of these you either aren't looking very hard, or didn't recognize what you saw. A prominent blogging veterinarian here in the US is fervently against killing stray and feral cats, but recommends capture, spaying and release as a way to allow these cats to "live their natural lives" while bringing the problem gradually under control. I know of very few places where there is enough effort put into this to actually cause a population decline. Liking or not liking cats is a personal preference. I don't find the rewards match the effort, but I can easily see that others feel differently. My personal preferences are buttressed by significant allergies to the critters. Not surprisingly you often find that among the most fervent cat lovers are children. They get the benefits of cat ownership while mom and dad often deal with all the downsides (food, litterboxes, furniture repairs and vet bills to name a few). I haven't actually killed or harmed a cat, but do haze them regularly to attempt to keep them away from my property. But I continue to be irritated by cat people who blithely ignore or dismiss complaints about the critters that they foist on the area. If the critter would not be there without your actions it is difficult to argue that there is no responsibility. To me it is like someone playing loud music saying that sound travels in all directions. It is physics and nothing they can do anything about. |
| paulca:
Like everything I think humans virtue signal their humanity and cherry pick their examples. Probably more rodents and criters killed per loaf of bread than by any domestic cat, for example. If you want to live your life completely sin free and without harm to any other life. Best end it. That's about the only way. Also in a lot of areas of life, if you don't kill, you don't survive. Consider if we include everything down to the bacteria and other pathogenic life. If you don't kill, it will kill you. |
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