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Is Altium free anywhere?
Faringdon:
--- Quote ---KiCad can't hold a candle to Altium or the other professional programs. Can you make it produce excellent boards? Absolutely. Does it support you in doing so the same way Altium can? Absolutely not.
--- End quote ---
Thanks, this is interesting, by "support", you mean Altium can send out Applications Support Engineers?...and KICAD can't?.....
nctnico:
--- Quote from: Faringdon on May 20, 2023, 04:43:27 pm ---
--- Quote ---KiCad can't hold a candle to Altium or the other professional programs. Can you make it produce excellent boards? Absolutely. Does it support you in doing so the same way Altium can? Absolutely not.
--- End quote ---
Thanks, this is interesting, by "support", you mean Altium can send out Applications Support Engineers?...and KICAD can't?.....
--- End quote ---
You are reading this wrong. The remark is about the difference in features. You can buy professional support (=help to use the software) for Kicad.
Zero999:
--- Quote from: PlainName on May 18, 2023, 07:49:49 pm ---Commercial web browsers got dethroned by Microsoft embedding IE in Windows. Nothing to do with open source.
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In the 90s Microsoft had a grand plan of owning the Internet by pushing IE only standards, but their wicked little plan failed when people noticed how buggy and insecure IE was compared to the alternatives. IE was firstly de-throned by open source browsers, but mobile phones with fully functional browsers were the final nail in the coffin.
--- Quote from: nctnico on May 20, 2023, 05:17:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: Faringdon on May 20, 2023, 04:43:27 pm ---
--- Quote ---KiCad can't hold a candle to Altium or the other professional programs. Can you make it produce excellent boards? Absolutely. Does it support you in doing so the same way Altium can? Absolutely not.
--- End quote ---
Thanks, this is interesting, by "support", you mean Altium can send out Applications Support Engineers?...and KICAD can't?.....
--- End quote ---
You are reading this wrong. The remark is about the difference in features. You can buy professional support (=help to use the software) for Kicad.
--- End quote ---
Just one question given the price of Altium, I question why it's so popular. I would have thought it would be better to hire another PCB developer, even on a part time basis and get them to use KiCAD.
PlainName:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on May 28, 2023, 08:35:36 pm ---
--- Quote from: PlainName on May 18, 2023, 07:49:49 pm ---Commercial web browsers got dethroned by Microsoft embedding IE in Windows. Nothing to do with open source.
--- End quote ---
In the 90s Microsoft had a grand plan of owning the Internet by pushing IE only standards, but their wicked little plan failed when people noticed how buggy and insecure IE was compared to the alternatives. IE was firstly de-throned by open source browsers, but mobile phones with fully functional browsers were the final nail in the coffin.
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Uh-huh. But you'll appreciate that came after IE did for the competition. So, again, open source didn't screw commercial browsers (that was IE) but stiffed IE once it was heading for domination.
nctnico:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on May 28, 2023, 08:35:36 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on May 20, 2023, 05:17:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: Faringdon on May 20, 2023, 04:43:27 pm ---
--- Quote ---KiCad can't hold a candle to Altium or the other professional programs. Can you make it produce excellent boards? Absolutely. Does it support you in doing so the same way Altium can? Absolutely not.
--- End quote ---
Thanks, this is interesting, by "support", you mean Altium can send out Applications Support Engineers?...and KICAD can't?.....
--- End quote ---
You are reading this wrong. The remark is about the difference in features. You can buy professional support (=help to use the software) for Kicad.
--- End quote ---
Just one question given the price of Altium, I question why it's so popular. I would have thought it would be better to hire another PCB developer, even on a part time basis and get them to use KiCAD.
--- End quote ---
You'll soon find Kicad is not as productive as a commercial package. Logistics is the keyword here. Altium's popularity is largely due to agressive pricing strategy in the early days which made it a kind of standard. But IMHO it is the Windows of PCB CAD programs. Many use it, few actually like it -especially when exposed to alternative commercial packages-. Personally I won't touch Altium; way too cumbersome, slow and frugal to use.
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