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| SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: RoGeorge on July 01, 2021, 12:31:15 pm ---About alien life, I think distances are just too big to observe alien civilizations. --- End quote --- Yes. That's the most common and most reasonable point these days. Planets which could potentially host life, and a form of life that could actually interact with us in any detectable way, are much too far away from us - meaning of course, very far away in time. Enough that the equivalent time distance is orders of magnitudes longer than our existence as a species. There just isn't any possible meeting point. Of course, we may also find "primitive" forms of life in planets that are much closer to us. Heck, we are even still looking for life on Mars. But I think we'd all agree that by now, it's safe to say that Mars doesn't host any species that we could even call a civilization. Some weird bacterias would be our best bet, if any. |
| Nominal Animal:
--- Quote from: RoGeorge on July 01, 2021, 12:31:15 pm ---I'll call that AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) --- End quote --- That's actually a darned good name for it, I like that. Not only is it intuitive, but it also has precedents in cognitive sciences: general intelligence factor vs. intelligence quotient. Latter is measurable using tests, but that which actually matters is the former, but currently can only determine indirectly, for example by making many different IQ tests and looking at the commonalities in the results. (To simplify, if you could remove all cultural and cognitive biases from IQ tests, you'd end up basically with a test for the g-factor.) --- Quote from: RoGeorge on July 01, 2021, 12:31:15 pm ---It's only our hubris that makes us think that our intelligence is so special. --- End quote --- Fully agreed. |
| eti:
Remember that song, "Video killed the radio star"? Maybe SHORT term, but look - where's MTV now? Nowhere, and where's music radio? EVERYWHERE. See my analogy? |
| Nominal Animal:
Perhaps a look even further back, to silent film era, is more illustrative. Not all silent actors made the jump to the sound era. Some did, like Greta Garbo, Boris Karloff, Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy. Many didn't. The industry, the art form, simply changed. Whether silent films were the purer art form, or proper electronic hobby necessarily involves ferrichloride, I don't have an opinion. All I know is that while all things change, as long as we keep records and maintain copies of things we enjoy, those coming after us can enjoy them as much as we did if they choose to; and I want them to have the option to choose. I myself might yet decide to etch a board on my own, for example, because I have squirreled away some good articles on those old hobby magazines. Arduino did not kill them in any way; it just brought something different to the table. Full disclosure: I just stumbled on a machine learning-colorized version of Nosferatu (1922), with a nice orchestra-based soundtrack. |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: eti on July 02, 2021, 01:12:44 am ---Remember that song, "Video killed the radio star"? Maybe SHORT term, but look - where's MTV now? Nowhere, and where's music radio? EVERYWHERE. See my analogy? --- End quote --- I don't think either radio, or MTV are doing well, at the moment. They've both been replaced by streaming. I've never seen the point in music videos, or watched MTV in the 90s, when it was at its peak. Nowadays, when I listen to music, I put it on YouTube, in a background tab, so don't use the video part. --- Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 02, 2021, 01:31:01 am ---Full disclosure: I just stumbled on a machine learning-colorized version of Nosferatu (1922), with a nice orchestra-based soundtrack. --- End quote --- Well AI has killed manual colourising to some degree. There's still some need for manual training, to colour thing such as clothes, old vehicles, buildings etc. but most of it can be automated. |
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