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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2021, 11:29:06 pm »
EEVblog is a RELIGION, just check how many people gave Thanks for the langwadt's post "you can leave anytime you want" > "The following users thanked this post: TheBay, joeqsmith, Ian.M, rstofer, MasterTech, pqass, alexnoot" and soon will be more people, LOL.

There are a lot of fanatic and egocentric people here that love to show how smart they are, but this is just the Real World, and if you check other big forums, like the "diyAudio", is the same, EE people are not so friendly, neither humble.

Maybe everyone here just likes the forum, is proud of their contributions, like helping people out and having technical discussions, and don't take kindly when people disparage all this.
 
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2021, 11:31:43 pm »
If the OP really decides to leave, I might actually miss him. I went through his posting history and it looked like there could be some things for me worth learning.
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #52 on: November 17, 2021, 11:39:51 pm »
If the OP really decides to leave, I might actually miss him. I went through his posting history and it looked like there could be some things for me worth learning.

Bit like someone else we all remember. Top notch posts, sure. Just cannot seem to play nicely in the sandpit.

It's the irony of personal attack that gets me.
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #53 on: November 17, 2021, 11:40:32 pm »
Dave sells video views, simple as that.  If he steps them up to the level of PhDs, the audience shrinks to the point that there is no money in making videos.  The videos need to be of value to beginners.

True, but it's not as simple as that.
Views are nice, but it's not about the money. Almost none of my videos make it worth the time to actually make them in the first place. I do the more beginner oriented videos because I want to do them, I like to do them, I get satisfaction from the feedback I get from hobbyists and students and knowing that I'm helping people get into the hobby or field in an understanble manner that hopefully doesn't turn them off.
I would not get those things from making advanced level theoretical videos. If you want that, MIT have their entire course available on their Youtube channel for free, I recommend you go watch them instead of my channel.
 
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #54 on: November 17, 2021, 11:44:46 pm »
A lot of the dry academic lectures bore me to tears. I like a lot of the basic tutorials, I find that even in areas where I have a fair amount of experience there are still some gaps in my knowledge and I end up learning something new.
 

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« Reply #55 on: November 17, 2021, 11:46:57 pm »

 I do the more beginner oriented videos because I want to do them, I like to do them, I get satisfaction from the feedback I get from hobbyists and students and knowing that I'm helping people get into the hobby or field in an understandable manner that hopefully doesn't turn them off.

That's because you're old enough to remember the days of magazines etc that did in fact encourage beginner no matter what their age and professional experience elsewhere. The way most trained ppl treat newbies these days is dogshit.
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #56 on: November 17, 2021, 11:48:26 pm »
A lot of the dry academic lectures bore me to tears. I like a lot of the basic tutorials, I find that even in areas where I have a fair amount of experience there are still some gaps in my knowledge and I end up learning something new.

In my experience in a large engineering organization the dominant difference between a good engineer and one you would be better off without is that the good ones not only realized they could learn something new, but were eager to learn new things.  The other class of engineers thought they already knew everything.
 

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« Reply #57 on: November 17, 2021, 11:52:22 pm »
OP appears to be typical academic wingnut. How about you show us how to youtube? You know, build an audience not just profess to a captive one.
I'll bet something said on Dave's twitter caused some triggering.

I think it's simply:
 
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #58 on: November 17, 2021, 11:52:28 pm »
About the EEVblog forum, it's good, I'll rate it as 3 (from 1 to 5), the main problem is the super-long threads with more than 20, 50, 100 pages that you have to read to try to understand that issue, but this is a problem related to the Blog Format, not Dave.

That's just the (unfortunate?) fact of every forum, they are discussion forums. The only way to get around that is to currate info Wikipedia style. But they are two entirely different thing with different goals.

Yes, I also thought about the Wiki format, but actually, there are other options, something like Stackoverflow, still a discussion forum, but the most relevant posts appear first, and rated.

Stackexchange is useful for "which button do I use to floggle the widgeon in ObscureApp v1.3.2?" type questions. Or where a technician wants to copy and paste code into their application, without understanding it.

Stackexchange fails dismally where subtle points can and should be debated to and fro.
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #59 on: November 17, 2021, 11:56:35 pm »
About the EEVblog forum, it's good, I'll rate it as 3 (from 1 to 5), the main problem is the super-long threads with more than 20, 50, 100 pages that you have to read to try to understand that issue, but this is a problem related to the Blog Format, not Dave.

That's just the (unfortunate?) fact of every forum, they are discussion forums. The only way to get around that is to currate info Wikipedia style. But they are two entirely different thing with different goals.

Yes, I also thought about the Wiki format, but actually, there are other options, something like Stackoverflow, still a discussion forum, but the most relevant posts appear first, and rated.

Stackexchange is useful for "which button do I use to floggle the widgeon in ObscureApp v1.3.2?" type questions. Or where a technician wants to copy and paste code into their application, without understanding it.

Stackexchange fails dismally where subtle points can and should be debated to and fro.

As a drive-by programmer, I've noticed you use stackex to get it working. You hang out in the prog sub forum here if you want to understand it.
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #60 on: November 17, 2021, 11:57:05 pm »
I can't find the thread now, but didn't Dave get Chartered sometime in the last couple of years?

Dave Johns never entered in to any university.
He got degree of general electronics from technical college name unknown.
He worked as trainee in to a company which did electronics design, for a short period and he got fired.
As soon he got fired he started the Blog.
7-years ago the Australian company closed down.
And Dave is making 7-figures/year now.


 
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #61 on: November 17, 2021, 11:57:34 pm »
Stackexchange is useful for "which button do I use to floggle the widgeon in ObscureApp v1.3.2?" type questions. Or where a technician wants to copy and paste code into their application, without understanding it.

Stackexchange fails dismally where subtle points can and should be debated to and fro.

Stack Exchange and Stack Overflow are incredibly toxic places in my opinion, I wouldn't participate there if you paid me. I hate those sites where popular topics bubble to the top and you end up with a handful of obsessive people who become powerful on the forum by spending SO much time posting. They are also incredibly dry and boring, there is no discussion, just answers to questions.
 

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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #62 on: November 17, 2021, 11:58:59 pm »
Dave's video's are entertaining but as soon as it gets complicated he either fudges the details or gets in wrong.

Care to cite specific examples? Because this hasn't been my experience at all.

Dave Johns never entered in to any university.
He got degree of general electronics from technical college name unknown.
He worked as trainee in to a company which did electronics design, for a short period and he got fired.
As soon he got fired he started the Blog.
7-years ago the Australian company closed down.
And Dave is making 7-figures/year now.

Oh Trader, you made me laugh. Nothing you said there was correct, you couldn't even get Dave's name right.  :palm:
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #63 on: November 17, 2021, 11:59:23 pm »

Let's make a comprehensive list, this is fun!

I don't like your haircut.

Probably the hardest I've laughed when reading this forum. 

Also I don't like watching Dave's videos on a cheap 30" TV.  Dave needs to supply good TVs for his viewers.
 
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« Reply #64 on: November 18, 2021, 12:03:12 am »
Dave's video's are entertaining but as soon as it gets complicated he either fudges the details or gets in wrong.
Care to cite specific examples? Because this hasn't been my experience at all.

He's actually right on that some times. I often deliberately fudge the complicated details.
And I can almost guarantee there is an error in every one of my videos. Welcome to off the cuff video making.
 
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #65 on: November 18, 2021, 12:05:19 am »
Dave's video's are entertaining but as soon as it gets complicated he either fudges the details or gets in wrong.
Care to cite specific examples? Because this hasn't been my experience at all.

He's actually right on that some times. I often deliberately fudge the complicated details.
And I can almost guarantee there is an error in every one of my videos. Welcome to off the cuff video making.

Thank God for youtube comments section.
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #66 on: November 18, 2021, 12:05:39 am »
Dave's video's are entertaining but as soon as it gets complicated he either fudges the details or gets in wrong.
Care to cite specific examples? Because this hasn't been my experience at all.

He's actually right on that some times. I often deliberately fudge the complicated details.
And I can almost guarantee there is an error in every one of my videos. Welcome to off the cuff video making.

There's a difference between thinking on the fly (and occasionally getting things wrong) and deliberately falsifying or "making up" facts.

There is no one on this planet who can say they've never made a mistake. Intelligent people just admit it and learn from them.
 

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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #67 on: November 18, 2021, 12:06:04 am »
I don't like your haircut.

Mrs EEVblog is offended.
 
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« Reply #68 on: November 18, 2021, 12:07:44 am »
Dave's video's are entertaining but as soon as it gets complicated he either fudges the details or gets in wrong.
Care to cite specific examples? Because this hasn't been my experience at all.

He's actually right on that some times. I often deliberately fudge the complicated details.
And I can almost guarantee there is an error in every one of my videos. Welcome to off the cuff video making.

Thank God for youtube comments section.

While it still exists...
 
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #69 on: November 18, 2021, 12:09:05 am »
Dave sells video views, simple as that.  If he steps them up to the level of PhDs, the audience shrinks to the point that there is no money in making videos.  The videos need to be of value to beginners.
I would not get those things from making advanced level theoretical videos. If you want that, MIT have their entire course available on their Youtube channel for free, I recommend you go watch them instead of my channel.

In my personal opinion, Youtubers are for ENTERTAINMENT only, think about ElectroBOOM, maybe the biggest in this topic.

The Signal Path, EEVblog, and others are good if you Already know electronics, but they are useless for teaching electronics, most of the time, are just curious entertainment of something that you will never use in your life.

Very few YouTubers are good to teach electronics: w2aew (advanced), GreatScott! (intermediate), learnelectronics / electronzapdotcom (beginner).

But, for me, the most effective way to learn electronics is through Books, maybe university videos; other resources, like this forum, are for very specific or practical issues.

edit: or for hacking something  :-DD
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #70 on: November 18, 2021, 12:13:41 am »
Thank God for youtube comments section.

While it still exists...

All jokes aside, I'm still straddling the idea of leaving behind the comments when the bulk of y/t is being mirrored elsewhere. More annoying is the "I'll leave links in the description". I wish they would put it in the lower third.
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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #71 on: November 18, 2021, 12:17:45 am »
Dave sells video views, simple as that.  If he steps them up to the level of PhDs, the audience shrinks to the point that there is no money in making videos.  The videos need to be of value to beginners.
I would not get those things from making advanced level theoretical videos. If you want that, MIT have their entire course available on their Youtube channel for free, I recommend you go watch them instead of my channel.

In my personal opinion, Youtubers are for ENTERTAINMENT only, think about ElectroBOOM, maybe the biggest in this topic.

The Signal Path, EEVblog, and others are good if you Already know electronics, but they are useless for teaching electronics, most of the time, are just curious entertainment of something that you will never use in your life.

Very few YouTubers are good to teach electronics: w2aew (advanced), GreatScott! (intermediate), learnelectronics / electronzapdotcom (beginner).

But, for me, the most effective way to learn electronics is through Books, maybe university videos; other resources, like this forum, are for very specific or practical issues.
I do watch Youtube videos for things I don't know enough about like specific functions in CAD software and stuff like installing airconditioning, wood working, metal working, fixing stuff on a car, etc. Usually it results in learning something.
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« Reply #72 on: November 18, 2021, 12:30:26 am »
Thank God for youtube comments section.

While it still exists...

All jokes aside, I'm still straddling the idea of leaving behind the comments when the bulk of y/t is being mirrored elsewhere. More annoying is the "I'll leave links in the description". I wish they would put it in the lower third.

Good point, I'll try and do that for links that are easy to remember. A bit pointless for complex URL's though like a Youtube video URL.
 

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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #73 on: November 18, 2021, 12:42:10 am »
Please show me how a one Ounce PCB can shied a magnetic field with a frequency of 25 kHz. Then I will take you seriously.

We are now narrowing down the things he's butt hurt about.
The magnetic shielding video and the LED video.
Let's make a comprehensive list, this is fun!

Just watched #1329 Magnetic Field Shielding DEMONSTRATED.   I didn't see the problem and you got a thumbs up. 

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Using a split core for a sensor and my HP3589A as a source,  I can easily see the 25KHz spurs with no averaging.  Placing the core about 2" from the CRT and then inserting a 1oz CU board between them,  I measured about 30dB.   I must be missing something as I wouldn't have thought this was a big surprise.   

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There are too many LED videos.  Based on their titles, nothing jumped out.   

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Re: Is EEVBlog worth it
« Reply #74 on: November 18, 2021, 01:03:40 am »
The "advice" dispensed by the members of this blog is useless. Rather read credible books on engineering or study at an accredited university than reading the junk "advice" on this blog.

Actually I think EEVBlog has the lowest signal-to-noise ratio of any large internet forum I'm aware of.  I've gotten plenty of helpful advice here, and perhaps given a bit too.


Agreed, I don't think I've seen a more helpful, on topic, civilized, low noise forum than this one.
 
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