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Is electronics a man's hobby?

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jonovid:
cancel culture looking for a fight. ? group shaming BS  many bot's r offended   :-DD

cdev:
Janoc, you should stick your neck out a bit for her and try to impress upon them how they should support her interests. Whatever they are.
Does she have her own raspberry Pi?

She'll be forever greateful to you. She is extremely lucky to have somebody like you in her family. What is it they expect young women are going to be doing for jobs in the near future? We cant all be (whatever it is they expect her to do)

Technical interests are also good for peoples sanity. Its a lot better than a lot of other things kids could be doing, put it to them like that. Technical interests can make huge differences in peoples lives.


--- Quote from: janoc on September 13, 2020, 07:48:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: Bud on September 13, 2020, 06:46:47 pm ---Because men's and women's brains are wired differently. Guess what, i did not see many men doing knitting.

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You would be surprised.

It is much more about society and upbringing of children than "brains being wired differently".

If you bring your kids up with your daughter being shown only "girly" or "appropriate for girls" stuff and your boy only "the boy stuff", no wonder. Ever been to a typical toy store? With aisles clearly delimited by color or boy/girl labels, with "boy side" having Legos, cars, guns (!) and "girl side" only dolls, princess outfits, make up and such? Also the peer pressure at later age when anything science/engineering is considered "nerdy" and "uncool" isn't helping.

A lot of girls are interested in technical pursuits but they tend to be put off - either by parents or later on by peers. I could see it clearly with my nephew a niece - while she is a typical "girly girl", she was pretty keen on things like computers, computer programming in Scratch, building stuff from Legos, helping my dad in the workshop, etc. But her parents aren't interested in that and aren't guiding her to explore it, more the exact opposite. So it is very unlikely she will wind up doing anything e.g. with electronics or engineering later in her life.

But it is "because men's and women's brains are wired differently". Yeah right.  |O

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In San francisco, a couple of blocks from where I used to live there was a kitting and ceramics workship going on practically every night of the week in this building I used to walk past. there were guys there knitting. I think a lot of people take it up because its good exercise for the brain.

John B:
A+ clickbait, 50+ page thread incoming.

Seriously though, no need to jump on the OP about the trans thing. On youtube at least, it's rather interesting that the majority of the electronics and tech channels are made by men, and many of the women that have channels are male too. We don't need a pink elephant in the room/emperor's new clothes situation going on here. Keep in mind that this is a sample of youtube channels, not the general population.

Zero999:

--- Quote from: janoc on September 13, 2020, 07:48:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: Bud on September 13, 2020, 06:46:47 pm ---Because men's and women's brains are wired differently. Guess what, i did not see many men doing knitting.

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You would be surprised.

It is much more about society and upbringing of children than "brains being wired differently".

If you bring your kids up with your daughter being shown only "girly" or "appropriate for girls" stuff and your boy only "the boy stuff", no wonder. Ever been to a typical toy store? With aisles clearly delimited by color or boy/girl labels, with "boy side" having Legos, cars, guns (!) and "girl side" only dolls, princess outfits, make up and such? Also the peer pressure at later age when anything science/engineering is considered "nerdy" and "uncool" isn't helping.

A lot of girls are interested in technical pursuits but they tend to be put off - either by parents or later on by peers. I could see it clearly with my nephew a niece - while she is a typical "girly girl", she was pretty keen on things like computers, computer programming in Scratch, building stuff from Legos, helping my dad in the workshop, etc. But her parents aren't interested in that and aren't guiding her to explore it, more the exact opposite. So it is very unlikely she will wind up doing anything e.g. with electronics or engineering later in her life.

But it is "because men's and women's brains are wired differently". Yeah right.  |O

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There is evidence to support that female brains are different to male ones, but there is no definitive proof to suggest interests such as engineering are innate or societal.

What's definitely true is that raising a boy, as a girl, doesn't make him act like a girl, or believe he's a girl. This was proven with twins Bruce and Brian Reimer, back in the 1960s.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11814300
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

cdev:
Its an interesting historical fact that women used to do practically all the computer programming for the early NASA missions. Back then they were thought of as intrinsically better at it. This is historical fact and its easy to verify as many of these women are still remembered at NASA.

As workplaces go, there still are a lot of women scientists at NASA. And lots of them are doing things that push the state of the art, systems that demand a very high level of teamwork, knowledge and reliability. They have lots of female administrators too. And support staff. They  have kickass female system administrators, who know unix inside and out.

They do things like that as well as men do.  Thats what women are capable of in professional atmospheres where people have no time for bullshit.

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