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DC1MC:
Here's a typical project, with price in Indian rupees (ca. 400EUR after fees), original spelling has been kept  :-DD:


--- Quote ---Embaded system developement for EV charging station

₹12,500.00 – 37,500.00 INR
Bidding ends in 6 days, 18 hours
 I want to make an EV charging station, the hardware part is done , but dont know how to programe and add diaplay   microprocessor, to calculate electricy consumed and price calculation
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And I know a German company that spend more than 2.000.000EUR for a charging point development, if only they have thought about freelancer.com  :-DD :-DD :-DD

Cheers,
DC1MC
 

peter-h:
It may be a typical project but it isn't one for which FL works.

Actually, embedded is about the last thing you can get done on FL.


--- Quote ---German company that spend more than 2.000.000EUR for a charging point development
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If they really spent 2M on the embedded hardware and software, it's no wonder they need so much gas ;) That's completely ridiculous.

DC1MC:

--- Quote from: peter-h on October 14, 2022, 11:24:26 am ---It may be a typical project but it isn't one for which FL works.

Actually, embedded is about the last thing you can get done on FL.


--- Quote ---German company that spend more than 2.000.000EUR for a charging point development
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If they really spent 2M on the embedded hardware and software, it's no wonder they need so much gas ;) That's completely ridiculous.

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That was all the development, including HW, SW and certification, I've heard that in UK they're using RPi's for the control board, in DE that will get laughed out of the door, the HW and SW has to be real secure, like Common Criteria secure. Of course, if one wants to make something that just clicks a relay and a timer when the charging cable is inserted and display the price and time, it may be feasible.
I think they'll enjoy if you'll bin on their project.

Cheers,
DC1MC

peter-h:
I am sure that's BS. Typical post brexit BS.

Common Criteria is complete BS for a charger.

If you are doing credit card / contactless transactions, that's completely different.

Anyway, nobody on FL will do that. I did for a time wonder if anyone there had any embedded experience (specifically LWIP etc, which practically nobody on EEVBLOG knew about ;) ) but while some had worked on products containing it, nobody really knew. Well, same as anywhere else on the internet. Most specialist expertise is developed / paid for in "company time" (even if the project started by lifting code from Github ;) ) so nobody talks about what they did.

FL is good for little jobs in areas of common expertise. A lot of coders there will work for an hourly rate, say $40/hr which is actually very normal around E Europe, but I stopped paying by the hours years ago because those projects always overrun massively.

tom66:
You seem to have a very bitter view of software engineering,  how much have you done in your time?    It's not a closed union-only shop.  If you want to learn something, then absolutely nothing stops you asking questions, looking at source code, and examples.  In fact I would say SW engineering is a field that is full of people willing to help and contribute,  there is a huge resource of help out there. Admittedly it can get harder when there is a problem only you have, but that's true of most things.

For what it is worth I ported LWIP to an entire processor it had never run on before (as far as I could tell),  it was an interesting process and it did take some time,  but it was hardly impossible!  No it did not take 10 hours,  I think in total it was about 4 months of work from starting to having properly reliable ethernet traffic. 

Engineering is a field that really depends on both the management/project directors and the actual engineers understanding the underlying technology.  If you go out and ask for some LWIP project to be completed in 10 hours at a sub $1k price then you will rightfully get laughed at and get joke bids and no one will think you are serious.

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