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Is Google Australia Right or Wrong?
John B:
Pretty hard to feel sorry for a multinational censorious corporation, but also hard to feel sorry for the traditional legacy Australian media. I've had a hunch that the covid pandemic has actually boosted the viewership of legacy media outlets even if there are people being laid off. The overall coverage has left me disgusted though, when it's not scary music hysteria, it's being a mouthpiece for government mandates.
Hard to know who to root for in order to knock a few barnacles off the bottom of the boat, as it were :-DD
VK3DRB:
When Google starts paying their fair share of tax in Australia, I will start listening to them.
vk6zgo:
--- Quote from: VK3DRB on August 21, 2020, 03:28:44 am ---When Google starts paying their fair share of tax in Australia, I will start listening to them.
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Though, in fairness, the "traditional news media" pay as little as they can get away with, as well.
They do, however, employ people in Australia, --- how many do Google employ?
If I could go in & take McDonald's burgers, go back to my place & either sell them, or hand them out, Macca's would get a bit stroppy.
Maybe the Oz media's product includes a lot of "nothingburgers", but it is their product, why should they have to give it away, free to a company which does very little in return?
My rule is pretty much "getting your news off the Internet is like getting your nutrients from roadkill".
I find that the actual News segments on TV are reasonable ----- there isn't a lot of time for journalists to conspire with flinty eyed agents of the Kremlin, Wall Street, the Iluminati, the Lizard people, or whatever, given the time constraints they work under.
When I worked for CH7, I noticed they got things right with a couple of hours to do it in, more often the local (then Murdoch) Sunday paper which had all week!
ataradov:
They are not giving it away. Google's argument is that they provide a valuable service by bringing in search traffic. And it seems like that argument holds.
And individual outlets are already free to block the google bot. It does not hide, it identifies itself. But they don't want to, since everyone else will just get more traffic. So clearly they realize Google's importance.
tooki:
--- Quote from: coppice on August 19, 2020, 02:32:36 am ---
--- Quote from: Bud on August 19, 2020, 02:28:42 am ---Since when Traditional media means web ? Traditional media is hard print, i would love to have my Traditional media back, delivered to my house mailbox.
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The traditional print media that is still around is mostly consumed via the web these days, but its still the same only media companies. They just abandoned any connection to honest reporting, and can no longer afford to investigate anything.
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That’s only true to some extent. Newspapers, which traditionally formed the foundation of news collecting and investigative journalism, have undergone tremendous consolidation over the past 50 years or so, but highly accelerated since the web took off. Local newspapers mostly used to be independent, now they’re almost all owned by a handful of companies who’ve gutted them.
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