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Is it difficult to buy a car in Australia?

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Circlotron:
First and only new car I bought in 1985. After all the usual paperwork was done, the salesman asked if I would like to have this extra-cost rustproofing done. (Salt is not used on roads there in Australia). I asked him would the car rust in the first five years if I didn't have it done? If it would then I didn't want the car. If it wouldn't then I didn't want the rustproofing. He changed the subject...

Brumby:

--- Quote from: coppice on October 01, 2018, 10:31:35 am ---Is registration tied to ownership in Australia?
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I can only speak from what I know about NSW - but no.  The rego papers are treated like a title - but they don't hold any legal status like the deed to a property.  It's become so much a defacto title that I think the majority of car owners would be surprised if they knew the facts.


--- Quote ---Does that mean a leased car is registered by the lease holder, and a company provided car is registered by the company which owns it? I'm more used to a car being registered by its keeper.

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As far as I understand, you can have one person (or other legal entity) have the right of ownership and a completely different person (or other legal entity) appear on the registration papers.  The former can modify, sell or even scrap the car.  The latter gets the notices, such as registration renewals and camera captured violations.

However, the driver (who could be a third person) is responsible for the vehicle being roadworthy and registered when they take it out onto public roads - and if anything isn't right, they will get the ticket for it, just as they would get a ticket for speeding.

Halcyon:

--- Quote from: coppice on October 01, 2018, 10:31:35 am ---
--- Quote from: Rerouter on October 01, 2018, 10:22:43 am ---Title as in receipt of ownership, e.g. a deed to a house, Something that shows you own it no matter who pays the land tax, or the council rates,

E.g. I own the registration of my car, My mother is primary user of the car for the past 4 years, Its referred to as my car, but in a defacto sense she would be the owner,

Or 2 years ago I bought a trailer off someone from another state, And I let the registration lapse because It was for use on private land, Technically he is the last owner the government would be aware of, so If he insisted, he could probably have it reclaimed,

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Is registration tied to ownership in Australia? Does that mean a leased car is registered by the lease holder, and a company provided car is registered by the company which owns it? I'm more used to a car being registered by its keeper.

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That's correct. The registered owner is ultimately responsible for the vehicle. You cannot sell the vehicle without the consent of the registered owner. In the case of a lease car, you are still the registered owner, but there is a "security" recorded against the vehicle. If you're driving a company vehicle, the registered owner is usually the company. Anyone can own/register a vehicle (whether you hold a driving licence or not). If a vehicle is infringed and the driver is not present, the ticket goes to the registered owner, it's up to them to nominate who was driving, if they can't/won't, there are additional penalties and they wear the original ticket.

razberik:
I watched other Cadogans videos.
There might be some useful information, however, they are told in monstrous complicated language with so much time-wasting pad that I consider his videos waste of time.
Other content creators are more informative.

He cannot even say "Hello" in less than 20 words.

stevelup:

--- Quote from: razberik on September 29, 2018, 06:22:18 pm ---But the price negotiating process in new car dealers shocks me. :o
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It's entirely normal here in the UK to be able to get 8-10% off even premium brands such as BMW. And that 10% is a considerable amount of money on a £50k car.

I'm the opposite - it amazes me when people -don't- haggle. It's effectively just burning money.

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