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Is RS components trying to screw Raspberry pi?
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tszaboo:

--- Quote from: james_s on December 08, 2022, 07:22:49 am ---
--- Quote from: Kasper on December 08, 2022, 06:33:47 am ---Quote below from RPi in April 2022.  I wonder if RPi postpones orders to distributors when a business calls in to talk about their livelihood.


--- Quote from: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/production-and-supply-chain-update/ ---we’ve consistently been able to build around half a million of our single-board computers and Compute Module products each month
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Right now we feel the right thing to do is to prioritise commercial and industrial customers – the people who need Raspberry Pis to run their businesses – we’re acutely aware that people’s livelihoods are at stake. There is currently enough supply to meet the needs of those customers. (Read to the end if you’re in this position and are struggling.) Unfortunately this comes at the cost of constrained supply for individual customer, who might be looking to buy a small number for home projects or for prototyping

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I find this quite annoying actually. They're prioritizing business customers over the hobbyists and educational market which are exactly what the RPi was intended for in the first place, the hobbyists in the open source community have done a lot of the work to make the software support as good as it is.

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If you have a business and this is a core product then on the other hand, people could loose their job. Or be without payment for month because production shuts down. IMHO it's a bad idea to rely on the RPI foundation for your business, and if I would be in charge of designing the product I would never do that with at least having an alternative for it, but you know how startups break best practices all the time.
Fraser:
Whilst working on some China manufactured systems I came across the Banana-Pi (BPI). I had never come across these units before so did some research on them. I found that they were like a R-Pi but of Chinese origin. It seems Chinese product developers like these units and the manufacturer is keen to sell product to anyone who needs such a device.

https://www.banana-pi.org/web/?pcd=1&wap=1

R-Pi vs B-Pi

https://www.educba.com/raspberry-pi-vs-banana-pi/#:~:text=Thus%2C%20Banana%20Pi%20is%20compatible,NetBSD%2C%20Android%2C%20Debian%20etc.

I have no idea whether B-Pi is a serious alternative for Simon but it could be a case of thecChinese taking the R-Pi design and improving upon it ? For example, it has a SATA interface  :-+ HDMI performance is inferior though.

Fraser
rstofer:

--- Quote from: tom66 on December 07, 2022, 08:00:38 pm ---The Jetson Nano is a neat board but it pulls about 10W under high CPU load - for many applications that is a problem.  You can cap it to about 5W but the performance is quite poor, CPU wise slower than a Pi 4 as the GPU eats up so much of the power budget.

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The GPU is probably the only reason for using the Nano.  Even then, there aren't that many compute cores.


--- Quote ---The Jetson Nano is built around a 64-bit quad-core Arm Cortex-A57 CPU running at 1.43GHz alongside a NVIDIA Maxwell GPU with 128 CUDA cores capable of 472 GFLOPs (FP16), and has 4GB of 64-bit LPDDR4 RAM onboard along with 16GB of eMMC storage and runs Linux for Tegra.

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472 GFlops of FP16 is nothing to laugh at for a small board. But, certainly, it is a niche product.  128 CUDA cores is pretty minimal.

james_s:

--- Quote from: tszaboo on December 08, 2022, 10:08:56 am ---If you have a business and this is a core product then on the other hand, people could loose their job. Or be without payment for month because production shuts down. IMHO it's a bad idea to rely on the RPI foundation for your business, and if I would be in charge of designing the product I would never do that with at least having an alternative for it, but you know how startups break best practices all the time.

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Yes it's kind of on them I think, the RPi was never meant to be an embedded industrial computer, high volume products should not be designed around it.
Veteran68:
Banana Pi's have been around for quite awhile, they just never got much traction because the cost differential compared to a "real" Pi was negligible. Similar to Orange Pi's.

These days, these knock-offs are getting a lot more attention, although the B-Pi's prices have gone up quite a bit as well -- whether due to their own supply shortages, or just supply & demand or inflationary pressures, or both. Their new-ish 4GB M5 model, roughly equivalent to a $55 RPi 4b, goes for $70-$80 from China, even though they do have 16GB eMMC built in and don't require an SD card for the OS.
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