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Title: Is the moon real?
Post by: In Vacuo Veritas on December 21, 2018, 04:52:33 pm
It supposedly weighs 70000000000000000000000 kilos but it just hangs there and doesn't fall down?

LOL

PS: Yes, I know it doesn't weigh anything since it's in free fall. Thank you.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Zero999 on December 21, 2018, 04:56:53 pm
Lol, very funny.  :-DD
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: coppercone2 on December 21, 2018, 05:01:03 pm
no dinosaurs were playing baseball and something got stuck in orbit
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Simon on December 21, 2018, 09:01:03 pm


PS: Yes, I know it doesn't weigh anything since it's in free fall. Thank you.

Crap you mean it's going to hit us?
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Domagoj T on December 21, 2018, 09:39:08 pm


PS: Yes, I know it doesn't weigh anything since it's in free fall. Thank you.

Crap you mean it's going to hit us?

Nah, don't worry about it. Its aim isn't all that stellar. In fact, and somewhat paradoxically, even though it is constantly falling towards the Earth, it is still managing to keep falling away from the Earth. Moon is weird in that way. Definitely a hologram.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Simon on December 21, 2018, 09:44:33 pm
Yea that's why we can't see the other side.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Domagoj T on December 21, 2018, 09:53:45 pm
Of course. When they built it, the graphics card weren't beefy enough to render the 3D rotating object in real time, so they settled for a static 8-bit gray scale sprite.
Now it's too late to change it.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Brumby on December 22, 2018, 04:54:55 am
I've seen a few bits of tech like that....
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: GregDunn on December 22, 2018, 06:26:03 am
Stand on the sea shore at low tide and keep saying out loud "Is the Moon real?"  We'll get back to you.   :-DD
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Domagoj T on December 22, 2018, 07:05:57 am
Well, the shores are not real either. Don't you see they can't even decided where the water begins. Obviously their PID controller that monitors the water level is out of whack, oscillating an all.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: MarkF on December 22, 2018, 09:15:00 am
NO... We all live in a locker at the bus depot

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJLeBM6-AaM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJLeBM6-AaM)
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: TerraHertz on December 22, 2018, 09:18:12 am
Of course the moon is real, that's where the Nazi bases are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRa-GYJ5J-M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRa-GYJ5J-M)

So looking forward to this. Guaranteed to be some fine laughs.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Whales on December 22, 2018, 09:19:12 am
Well, the shores are not real either. Don't you see they can't even decided where the water begins. Obviously their PID controller that monitors the water level is out of whack, oscillating an all.

This seems to be related with the simulation timestep.  Smaller ocean connected areas (eg estuaries, lagoons) are more stable.

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[moon]

Of course. When they built it, the graphics card weren't beefy enough to render the 3D rotating object in real time, so they settled for a static 8-bit gray scale sprite.
Now it's too late to change it.

The moon's deprecated, expected to be removed in a future version.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Howardlong on December 22, 2018, 09:39:10 am
No the moon can’t be real, studies show the tide is turning.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: JackJones on December 22, 2018, 09:51:56 am
Well, they did send an expedition there once. Turns out it's made out of Wensleydale.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: tggzzz on December 22, 2018, 10:02:59 am
Yea that's why we can't see the other side.

There was a "Dark side of the Moon", until October 1959 when Luna 3 took the first photos of the farside.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: tggzzz on December 22, 2018, 10:06:56 am
Well, they did send an expedition there once. Turns out it's made out of Wensleydale.

Don't be silly. Wensleydale is a mature cheese, not a green cheese.

And rather nice it is too, provided is hasn't been cut, wrapped in plastic, refridgerated and sold in a supermarket.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: coppercone2 on December 22, 2018, 10:17:19 am
i bought some rubin cheese recently by accident. right into the trash can it smelled like I opened a bag filled with shit
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: SiliconWizard on December 22, 2018, 12:13:58 pm
It supposedly weighs 70000000000000000000000 kilos but it just hangs there and doesn't fall down?

LOL

PS: Yes, I know it doesn't weigh anything since it's in free fall. Thank you.

Well, do the laws of gravity always hold?
 >:D
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: cdev on December 22, 2018, 01:35:07 pm
When the astronauts discovered the Moon was NOT cheese they packed up their bags and went home.

A little cow told me that.


 ;)

But, seriously, folks, there are some good arguments for setting up an observatory on the far side of the Moon, that I am sure everybody here can understand.

Hint: Less RFI and less light pollution.

The downside is all the data collected would have to be relayed around the moon to be transmitted back to Earth either from a satellite or from a stationary high gain antenna on the other side.

Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Domagoj T on December 22, 2018, 05:53:44 pm
Other disadvantages:
Moon has seismic activity
Moon dust is devastating for mechanics (although there shouldn't be much of the dust being picked up other then during landing)
During the 14 day long night the temperature drops quite a bit, and during the 14 day long day it gets quite toasty. Thermal management could be an issue.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: edpalmer42 on December 22, 2018, 06:21:10 pm
Is the moon real?

Well, yes and no......

(https://lowres.cartooncollections.com/planets-outer_space-spaceships-rockets-rocket_ships-theatre-PB400009_low.jpg)

Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: rrinker on December 23, 2018, 04:44:31 am
 Of course it's real - real bleu cheese. It's small chunks that make it to Earth that we get the bleu cheese we eat and make dips from.
 :-DD :-DD :-DD
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Electro Detective on December 23, 2018, 09:24:52 am
When the astronauts discovered the Moon was NOT cheese they packed up their bags and went home.

A little cow told me that.


A mouse told me they did the runner because there was no gold, diamonds, oil, coal, uranium, kryptonite

 or 'love you long time' alien hookers   :-[
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: doobedoobedo on December 23, 2018, 10:01:26 am
Obviously we only see one side of the moon because it's flat.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: tggzzz on December 23, 2018, 11:49:22 am
Obviously we only see one side of the moon because it's flat.

Except that we can see 59% of the lunar surface from earth, due to libration

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Lunar_libration_with_phase_Oct_2007_450px.gif/220px-Lunar_libration_with_phase_Oct_2007_450px.gif)
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: doobedoobedo on December 23, 2018, 01:06:43 pm
Obviously we only see one side of the moon because it's flat.

Except that we can see 59% of the lunar surface from earth, due to libration

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Lunar_libration_with_phase_Oct_2007_450px.gif/220px-Lunar_libration_with_phase_Oct_2007_450px.gif)

Mere details.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: xrunner on December 23, 2018, 01:24:27 pm
It supposedly weighs 70000000000000000000000 kilos but it just hangs there and doesn't fall down?

LOL


Are YOU real?

If so - prove it.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: tggzzz on December 23, 2018, 06:09:51 pm
Obviously we only see one side of the moon because it's flat.

Except that we can see 59% of the lunar surface from earth, due to libration

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Lunar_libration_with_phase_Oct_2007_450px.gif/220px-Lunar_libration_with_phase_Oct_2007_450px.gif)

Mere details.

Indeed. Never let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: fsr on December 24, 2018, 01:05:17 am
LOL! Very funny!! :-DD :clap: :horse:

Everyone knows that the moon is an artifact from an ancient alien race, because the earth is flat, so it's impossible for gravity to hold it there. It's all a great conspiracy!! It's such a big conspiracy that nobody even knows who would benefit from such a global scam!! :scared: :palm:
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Electro Detective on December 24, 2018, 07:37:34 am

There's a Science-tology? place I drive past that welcomes all with free tea and coffee  :clap:

You reckon those dudes will have some answers?  :-//

If toast and biscuits are part of the deal, I may take them up on it and pick their brains  ;D

Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: cdev on December 24, 2018, 04:27:51 pm
Electro-Detective, have you heard the story of Xenu?

Its the Scientologists' cosmology or origin myth. I would like to hear what they say if you show up at their headquarters and ask them about that.

Way back in the day my friends and I used to play along and pretend to be gullible when approached by various cults, just to see where they would take it. There used to be a surplus as far as wacky cults and various new age religions in California, especially in the Bay Area. All sorts of them. Every kind of group you could possibly imagine, so this was a lot of fun.

But let me give you a tip, hold on to your shoes! Don't let them take away your shoes.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Richard Crowley on December 24, 2018, 06:00:20 pm
The moon is moving away from the earth at ~ 3.8 cm/year.
And that is theorized to be causing the rotation of our planet to gradually slow down.
27 leap seconds have been added since 1972 to keep current with sidereal time.
That last leap second was a couple of years ago, so we are pretty close for now.
Did we have a transient glitch in GPS at 23:59:60 on 2016-Dec-31?
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Richard Crowley on December 24, 2018, 06:02:30 pm
(https://d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net/wp/wp-content/images/Truman-Show-Screenshot-3-700x394.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: rrinker on December 24, 2018, 07:30:55 pm
 That's no moon....

Actually, the moon IS an alien spacecraft in disguise. Anyone else read this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutineers%27_Moon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutineers%27_Moon)


Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Circlotron on December 24, 2018, 09:23:01 pm
Is the moon real?

Well, yes and no......
Oh, Schrodinger’s moon.
Right...
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: coppice on December 24, 2018, 10:02:10 pm
Is the moon real?

Well, yes and no......
Oh, Schrodinger’s moon.
Right...
Ah, that explains why half the time I look up at night and the moon is there, and half the time it isn't.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Electro Detective on December 25, 2018, 12:01:31 am
Dunno guys, I can think of better things to do with a mooncraft  ::)

rather than waste juice hovering over earth keeping tabs on the little people below, scamming and or making fools of themselves year in year out  :palm:

Perhaps whoever is up there is dead (methane poisoning?) and the rig is on auto pilot ?  :-//
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: coppercone2 on December 25, 2018, 10:25:47 am
all those apollo astronauts came back a bit weird because the lunar partying with the illuminati was too hard
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Kilrah on December 25, 2018, 10:35:30 am
Nope, just CGI. But just like the rest of what we see  >:D


(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4895/45245492155_18a2b3c5ac_b.jpg) (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2bWbYuk')
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: German_EE on December 25, 2018, 02:58:50 pm
Yes, because I have personally pointed an antenna at the moon, sent out a signal, and received a signal back about 2.4 seconds later. Granted, it wasn't my equipment, but ham radio moonbounce work was kinda cool.

http://ve2zaz.net/Presentations/Downloads/VE2ZAZ_EME_Presentation.pdf (http://ve2zaz.net/Presentations/Downloads/VE2ZAZ_EME_Presentation.pdf)
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: A Hellene on December 26, 2018, 07:21:55 am
Of course the Moon (or Selene: the ancient name for the Earth's moon (https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Σελήνη), meaning 'the bright one') is real because, as stated previously, EME Communications (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth–Moon–Earth_communication) can verify that distance any time.

Another little known fact is that two of the most ancient Hellenic bloodliness, the Arcadians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadia) and the Selloi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selloi) have always been calling themselves «Προσέληνοι» ('proselenoi'), meaning that they existed, they were there, before Selene (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selene)! This is something that has been stated by Herodotus and lots of others (Apollonius of Rhodes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonius_of_Rhodes), Ovid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovid), Hesychius of Alexandria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesychius_of_Alexandria), in Soudas encyclopedic lexicon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suda), etc.); even Democritus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus) and Anaxagoras (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaxagoras) were teaching that there was an era when the Earth had no moon.

-George
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Domagoj T on December 26, 2018, 08:05:13 am
Of course there was Earth before Moon, but to claim that there was civilisation before it will require quite a bit of support.
AFAIK, the leading hypothesis on formation of the Mood states that a planet sized rock collided with Earth and partially merged, while the Moon formed from the debris. Such collision is not survivable for anything but perhaps the most primitive single cell organisms.
All our estimates of the age of the Moon far preceed the humanity.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: cdev on January 17, 2019, 08:01:07 pm
Interesting! I have a copy of (Herodotus's) 2400 year old 'the Histories' and its great light reading.
Of course the Moon (or Selene: the ancient name for the Earth's moon (https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Σελήνη), meaning 'the bright one') is real because, as stated previously, EME Communications (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth–Moon–Earth_communication) can verify that distance any time.

Another little known fact is that two of the most ancient Hellenic bloodliness, the Arcadians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadia) and the Selloi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selloi) have always been calling themselves «Προσέληνοι» ('proselenoi'), meaning that they existed, they were there, before Selene (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selene)! This is something that has been stated by Herodotus and lots of others (Apollonius of Rhodes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonius_of_Rhodes), Ovid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovid), Hesychius of Alexandria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesychius_of_Alexandria), in Soudas encyclopedic lexicon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suda), etc.); even Democritus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus) and Anaxagoras (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaxagoras) were teaching that there was an era when the Earth had no moon.

-George
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Red Squirrel on January 18, 2019, 09:49:00 pm
Sometimes the moon glitches out, and stays stuck and is seen in the day.  I think it's just a bug in the code that generates the hologram. I believe it uses DLP technology and sometimes the mirrors get stuck.

There is a scheduled reboot on the 20th to correct an issue so you might see it disappear for a bit.   They are replacing some of the bulbs in the lighting module.
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Richard Crowley on January 18, 2019, 10:04:15 pm
When it appears to "go dark" every month from our POV, maybe it turns so that we could see the back side if it weren't for the shadows.  Is that when the Russians send back all the telemetry?
Title: Re: Is the moon real?
Post by: Kilrah on January 18, 2019, 10:20:45 pm
Gotta shine a big fat laser at it to check... If it's got a DMD we might get a unicorn picture in return.