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mansaxel:

--- Quote from: raptor1956 on July 30, 2019, 11:55:29 pm ---I'm not so sure this isn't actually a back-door effort to stop YouTube from de-platforming channels engaged in propaganda and/or spreading hate.  Social media has become the default method for nefarious actors to spread hate and disinformation for personal or national goals and I would not put it past them to latch onto something like this to push the social media companies to allow them to do there hateful things unimpeded.  Be very useful to certain elements to prevent YT, FB Twitter and the rest from clamping down on them in the coming election.

Can governments force a newspaper to publish letters submitted by neonazi's? 


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Trade unions in Europe aren't the mafia's tool of persuasion, they are more of the original idea, i.e. unite against the employer. Also, they  typically don't have the power to force enroll people, and you can have several unions in parallel at the same workplace; it's especially common for salaried employees. (We Europeans are quite confused by the US union situation, which is strange to us.)

I would be very surprised and then some if this was a hate speech enabler vessel. The German unions exist in a context where there still are people around who remember their parents as members or oppressed by NSDAP. Having said that, there are right-wing nuts in Germany too, and they get seats in both Landtage and the Bundestag, while denying their obvious connections to people and ideas even further right.

And, to answer your question: Only in a dictatorship without freedom of the press does the government dictate the lettors to editor column. (there are other things, like corrections of factual errors, that might be mandated, but that is not the same thing.)

The modern dictatorship also is more sophisticated and makes use of smoke and mirrors more than oppression. Of course, when they can get more votes that way, they will oppress and violate international law and conventions and national laws quite openly. Preferably on-camera.
Deodand2014:
The firearms channel's YouTube issue was resolved, but the how is a little disturbing...



Deodand2014:
An update on a Movie related channel that tried to focus on works in the public domain.

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: Deodand2014 on March 07, 2020, 10:23:32 am ---An update on a Movie related channel that tried to focus on works in the public domain.

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What on earth is the TLDR; here? I skipped through and didn't really learn anything.
His channel just uploads old movies in full?
SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on December 04, 2019, 11:01:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: David Hess on November 25, 2019, 11:57:34 pm ---Legally they are not responsible for content that they host whether they curate it or not.
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Correct. That's not the reason why Youtube censor/delete most content, it's their own arbitrary in-house terms of service.

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At this point, this is essentially what it is. There probably are political motives IMO though (beyond mere economic ones), but those motives are unclear - so yes, from the outside, it just looks arbitrary.

The question of getting those services responsible for the content they host is a hot one though, and it's bound to eventually happen one of these days, at least partially.
They may not be directly responsible (like a traditional media would be), but if they do not take action after *knowing* that some content could be violating some laws/be seen as offensive/..., I guess they could be considered accomplice of some sort? Actually the same thing can happen to an indvidual hosting some dubious content on their website, even when they are not the author of said content and state it clearly.

I for one don't really know how that should be handled. I'm all for complete freedom of expression, but this is not what we currently have, even in countries considered the most "democratic" ones. So in the current state of things, it's a huge mess and I wouldn't want to manage such a hosting service myself. I wouldn't want to have to deal with the schizophrenia: freedom of speech vs. things that are still not allowed to be said, not being responsible while still potentially being able to get into big trouble, having to "please" every kind of users (content creators, viewers, and announcers). Damn. I would go nuts.
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