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SiliconWizard:
I don't know about Google, but Facebook has been actively collaborating with the governments of a few countries for a good while.

Couple examples:
https://theintercept.com/2016/09/12/facebook-is-collaborating-with-the-israeli-government-to-determine-what-should-be-censored/
http://en.rfi.fr/france/20190625-facebook-collaborate-french-government-hate-speech-cases-minister

I'm sure there are dozens of them.

Deodand2014:
Here is a trio of videos from a channel trying to cover WWII on a week-by-week basis, they hit monetization problems and search downgrades.

This is the first of two 'breakfast club' videos where they discussed the issue



In the second one they discussed Google's (aka YouTube's) reply and pointed out that the criteria they were sent for what could be demonetized were so vague that almost all human history fell under it.



And their response...

RoGeorge:
The WW2 channel dudes sound like bitching for why they were not getting a window seat in a holiday trip airplane that:
- was meant for a different destination than theirs
- still they were given a seat for free, anyway
- they talked only ugly stories all flight long while others were trying to have some holiday fun
- still they got a free meal during flight
- so when the cake was not big enough, their neighbor got a slice for being funnier while they don't.   :-//

YouTube is a space for placing ads, same as a billboard is, but in a different and cleverly twisted way.

YouTube is nobody's own TV broadcasting station.

soldar:

--- Quote from: SparkyFX on July 31, 2019, 08:15:41 pm ---Complaining about lack of neutrality is just too simple, not saying there are no sound cases. Those partially come from trying to automate the process vs. proper moderation. If all viewers like the latest fake news, conspiracy video or hatespeech, then there is no starting point for an algorithm to work with.
--- End quote ---

There are plenty of videos on YouTube showing things that are lies, like perpetual motion, dangerous, like how to cheat the electric power company by doing things that don't work anyway, and objectionable in many other ways. What is being demonitized is not specific content as much as unpopular content. That is because YouTube is in the business of selling advertising and they want to place their ads on popular videos not on videos that cause conflict.

You tube does not care if a guy posts videos of mice being tortured to death. But if a video of a dead mouse being eaten by a vulture gets a lot of complaints then they will demonitize it. Because that is the way their business model works.

SiliconWizard:
Yeah, on Youtube, most decisions for demonetizing videos come from the advertisers (and that's what Youtube managers themselves admit).

Censored videos, it's a different thing. I've already noticed a few videos that were explicitely censored in a specific country ("content not available in your country"), with an explicit mention that it was due to a complaint from the said country's government. It's probably a very small fraction of all videos, but it does happen.

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