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Deodand2014:
Here's an interesting discussion from the hosts of two firearms related YouTube channel, I've never watched the first channel, but the second has been doing a good history/context & mechanics coverage of firearms used in WWI. The discussion covers the YouTube Union and other related issues.

Part 1

https://youtu.be/JzaK3kJVOEI

Part 2

https://youtu.be/dLjIbDY-1J8

MyHeadHz:
Update from JoergSprave:

https://youtu.be/CMFqwCx7tnQ

Youtube has suddenly had a change of heart about some major issues lately.  They have unbanned prominent conservatives, and reduced "shadow banning" and censorship.

In addition to potential EU litigation like with the youtubers union, there is growing criticism about the legal status of social media companies and potential legislation in the US.  Already the courts have ruled (pending appeal) that Twitter is a "public forum," and politicians can't block users on the platforms in some situations.  Potential knock-on effects could go as far as courts therefore ruling that such companies lose their "platform" status if they are biased (censor), thus losing DMCA and other protections.  It is quite a can of worms, and I imagine such cases will go to the US Supreme court before anyone really knows what to do.  Members of both major parties have been hit with these cases, including Trump.

David Hess:

--- Quote from: MyHeadHz on September 02, 2019, 05:38:54 am ---Youtube has suddenly had a change of heart about some major issues lately.  They have unbanned prominent conservatives, and reduced "shadow banning" and censorship.
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You mean the banning, shadow banning, and censorship they insist never happened?  Yea, right.  I just checked and none of the channels I regularly watch are any less restricted.

Taking some token actions and negotiating with Joerg Sprave is just for delay until they can get a bigger stick.

SparkyFX:

--- Quote from: MyHeadHz on August 15, 2019, 04:13:34 pm ---A great deal of it apparently involves censorship and monetization.
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But no big surprises in there, it seems. It basically contains internal guides how to deal with legal requirements, approach to fake news/ads that look like articles, how it affected search in a few case studies.


--- Quote from: MyHeadHz on September 02, 2019, 05:38:54 am ---Youtube has suddenly had a change of heart about some major issues lately.  They have unbanned prominent conservatives, and reduced "shadow banning" and censorship.
--- End quote ---
Which is not what FairTube is about, it is about transparency. So even "unbanning" without transparency would not be a step forward.

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: MyHeadHz on September 02, 2019, 05:38:54 am ---Youtube has suddenly had a change of heart about some major issues lately.  They have unbanned prominent conservatives, and reduced "shadow banning" and censorship.

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