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magic:

--- Quote from: tooki on November 14, 2019, 12:10:39 am ---“Playing the victim” is what the perpetrators say to try and gaslight their victims.
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I see that you have already been assimilated by the Boomer, resistance is futile ;)


--- Quote from: tooki on November 14, 2019, 12:10:39 am ---At least in USA, millennials legitimately have a much, much harder situation than prior generations, in almost every tangible way. And when they rightfully stand up and say “WTF?”, they get called “victims”, but in a very real sense they are, and it’s absolutely correct of them to stand up against the people who caused the mess.
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I'm not arguing about that. I'm saying why Millennials are being associated with SJWism: because many of the most visible and obnoxious SJWs of today are, indeed, Millennials. The poor women in tech, the nonbinary zirs, the white knights defending them. These are mostly overgrown kids (indeed in their twenties or thirties by now, no disagreement here) who live in some imaginary world where other people's actions or lack thereof mean different things than they actually do and they fight fucking windmills.

Don't get me started :P I have been to some Internet feminist safe spaces, used to read "H".N. for years with the weekly submissions about Social Justice, I have some idea what those people are and I say they are insane.

And yes, #NotAllMillenials ::)
But it doesn't matter when it comes to the image, go figure. Another Boomerism to believe otherwise ;)

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Holy crap, EEVBlog forum has hastags, are we Twitter now? :scared:
tooki:

--- Quote from: coppice on November 14, 2019, 12:34:44 am ---
--- Quote from: tooki on November 14, 2019, 12:10:39 am ---That’s just as much nonsense as the claims that they’re all SJWs. “Playing the victim” is what the perpetrators say to try and gaslight their victims.

At least in USA, millennials legitimately have a much, much harder situation than prior generations, in almost every tangible way. And when they rightfully stand up and say “WTF?”, they get called “victims”, but in a very real sense they are, and it’s absolutely correct of them to stand up against the people who caused the mess.

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The young working class in the US do genuinely seem to have a much harder time than their parents. I have yet to be convinced that the average middle class US millennial has things worse. If they have bought into the BS around them they will suffer, but this has always been the case. Nobody, except (if you are lucky) your family, is looking out for you. You have always needed to look out for yourself, and steer your own course in life.

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Agreed. (Luckily, I am aware of how the UK definitions of working/middle/upper class differ from the US ones. By the US definition, even the middle class is not doing that great.) What sucks for them is that not only is the working class’s work situation bad, but they’re saddled with batshit crazy amounts of student debt, making it functionally impossible for them to begin to accrue any kind of savings or assets. This is going to be really, really bad when they’re reaching retirement age.



--- Quote from: magic on November 14, 2019, 08:22:16 am ---
--- Quote from: tooki on November 14, 2019, 12:10:39 am ---“Playing the victim” is what the perpetrators say to try and gaslight their victims.
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I see that you have already been assimilated by the Boomer, resistance is futile ;)

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I don’t think I understand. (FYI, I’m a “xennial”, i.e. the sliver between Gen X and millennial.)


--- Quote from: magic on November 14, 2019, 08:22:16 am ---
--- Quote from: tooki on November 14, 2019, 12:10:39 am ---At least in USA, millennials legitimately have a much, much harder situation than prior generations, in almost every tangible way. And when they rightfully stand up and say “WTF?”, they get called “victims”, but in a very real sense they are, and it’s absolutely correct of them to stand up against the people who caused the mess.
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I'm not arguing about that. I'm saying why Millennials are being associated with SJWism: because many of the most visible and obnoxious SJWs of today are, indeed, Millennials. The poor women in tech, the nonbinary zirs, the white knights defending them. These are mostly overgrown kids (indeed in their twenties or thirties by now, no disagreement here) who live in some imaginary world where other people's actions or lack thereof mean different things than they actually do and they fight fucking windmills.

Don't get me started :P I have been to some Internet feminist safe spaces, used to read "H".N. for years with the weekly submissions about Social Justice, I have some idea what those people are and I say they are insane.

And yes, #NotAllMillenials ::)
But it doesn't matter when it comes to the image, go figure. Another Boomerism to believe otherwise ;)

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Holy crap, EEVBlog forum has hastags, are we Twitter now? :scared:

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While it’s possibly true that the most obnoxious SJWs are millennials (though l suspect it’s actually not millennials, but rather the yet-unnamed generation following them, the people who are in their teens and early 20s now), there are a lot of Gen-Xers who are, too. Just who exactly do you think runs the SJW university departments? Millennials are too young.
magic:

--- Quote from: tooki on November 14, 2019, 02:31:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: magic on November 14, 2019, 08:22:16 am ---I see that you have already been assimilated by the Boomer, resistance is futile ;)

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I don’t think I understand.

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I mean, you blame SJWism on "Boomers and those before them" while yourself operating within their mental framework of "victims" and "perpetrators" ::)
And you fail to see how habitual victims are a real phenomenon and a perfectly rational (if shortsighted) response to an environment where victimhood is the primary social currency.
Deodand2014:
Another rant, best to listen to this with the audio turned off if at work, basically the channel covered model trains, train crashes from films and uploaded a couple of old films. He'd already been pinged for copyright over the train crash videos, but apparently COPPA was the last straw.

tooki:

--- Quote from: magic on November 14, 2019, 04:18:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on November 14, 2019, 02:31:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: magic on November 14, 2019, 08:22:16 am ---I see that you have already been assimilated by the Boomer, resistance is futile ;)

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I don’t think I understand.

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I mean, you blame SJWism on "Boomers and those before them" while yourself operating within their mental framework of "victims" and "perpetrators" ::)
And you fail to see how habitual victims are a real phenomenon and a perfectly rational (if shortsighted) response to an environment where victimhood is the primary social currency.

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I’m not talking about false victimhood. I was bullied as a kid and as such I’m acutely aware of how bullies act, and gaslighting is a key feature of it. The words “victim” and “perpetrator” also exist outside of the nonsense SJW context, you know?

And frankly, when it comes to boomers vs millennials, it’s absolutely the right way to frame the situation. The boomers DID cause a ton of the problems, and then they go and call the millennials crybabies for very rightfully calling the situation what it is. But just as statements can only libelous if they’re false, you don’t get to be dismissive of issues that are true! It’s not “victimhood”-as-an-insult if the damages claimed are factual!!

It’s you who are falling into the “professional victim” mindset by dismissing millennials’ very justified gripes as mere “victimhood”, when in fact they are adults with perfectly reasonable observations about very real problems. As I said, that’s just used as a tactic to discredit people who are putting one on the spot.
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