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Is there any theoretical limit to stupidity? (Android permission auto-revoke)
SilverSolder:
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There are pluses and minuses with both of the duopolists. I don't get along well with the "walled" nature of iOS, even if the user experience is very slick and well done.
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I feel that people often (and ALWAYS in error, as they ALWAYS focus on that one small aspect and skim over everything else) see the "walled garden" as ONLY keeping them in; no - it keeps all the junk/spam/attacks/tracking, OUT, no compromise.
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My views are formed by past bad experiences with trying to move or copy files between iDevices and Wintel PCs... OMG what a tangled web that can be, for something conceptually so simple.
Then there was the time where an iOS update destroyed my well loved iPhone 4s - the battery life went from several days to a few hours - it was ridiculous. Apple would not let me roll back the OS. The perfectly good phone became junk... I am still angry about that, years later, and it is absolutely a factor in me avoiding Apple phones to this day.
With my Android devices, I simply plug in a USB cord and have at it, just the way you'd expect it to work.
I agree that the Google stuff spies on you and tracks everything you do. It sucks, but I avoid it by keeping a minimum of personally identifiable data on the phone. I totally understand that I don't own my phone and that the landlord can do what he pleases.
I wish Microsoft/Nokia and/or Blackberry had been more successful, so we could have some alternatives to the current stale duopoly offerings...
IanB:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on February 22, 2022, 11:55:56 pm ---My views are formed by past bad experiences with trying to move or copy files between iDevices and Wintel PCs... OMG what a tangled web that can be, for something conceptually so simple.
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I think that is more a question of feature development not catching up fast enough. Things are much better today with file sharing and synchronization through the cloud. Any file I want on my Windows desktop I just say "send to OneDrive" or "send to iCloud" and it works just as I need it to. Items like photos are automatically sync'd so that as soon as I take a picture on my phone it is there on my desktop waiting for me.
PlainName:
--- Quote --- with file sharing and synchronization through the cloud. Any file I want on my Windows desktop I just say "send to OneDrive" or "send to iCloud" and it works just as I need it to
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Whereas with all my Android phones I can FTP into them, access a web-based file manager over wifi and upload/download individual files or automatically create a zip of them all to transfer en bloc, shove a USB cable up it, browse (on the phone) to any local PC share, use Nextcloud (despite its name it's a Dropbox clone running on-prem), ...
None of them accesses anyone elses machine, cloud or not, nor do they need to get permission off anyone but me.
IanB:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on February 23, 2022, 01:16:03 am ---Whereas with all my Android phones I can FTP into them...
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Wow. I haven't used FTP since the 90's. It's nice to be reminded of an ancient technology.
SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on February 23, 2022, 01:16:03 am ---
--- Quote --- with file sharing and synchronization through the cloud. Any file I want on my Windows desktop I just say "send to OneDrive" or "send to iCloud" and it works just as I need it to
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Whereas with all my Android phones I can FTP into them, access a web-based file manager over wifi and upload/download individual files or automatically create a zip of them all to transfer en bloc, shove a USB cable up it, browse (on the phone) to any local PC share, use Nextcloud (despite its name it's a Dropbox clone running on-prem), ...
None of them accesses anyone elses machine, cloud or not, nor do they need to get permission off anyone but me.
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Yep. Having the freedom of accessing your data in a strictly private manner and in standard ways is IMHO non-negotiable.
And that's at least one plus of Android.
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