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Is this Wiring Legal? (NSW)
Monkeh:
--- Quote from: Labrat101 on February 06, 2021, 08:05:57 pm ---why what would you do if you saw it .. its no use to a colour blind Monke h
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I'd know something about the qualifications you're so proud of.
And I'm not colour blind - I know the difference between blue and green/yellow. You, apparently, can't see that - perhaps turn off the VPN so you can see the video at better than 360p.
This is perhaps a language barrier - that and an issue of assumption. You've seen some things which you assume are dangerous without knowing the context and are banging on your vaguely licensed drum about it. Me, I've seen a general mess which merits investigation rather than assumptions. But we both seem to agree it's an awful mess..
Labrat101:
--- Quote from: Monkeh on February 06, 2021, 08:08:45 pm ---
--- Quote from: Labrat101 on February 06, 2021, 08:05:57 pm ---why what would you do if you saw it .. its no use to a colour blind Monke h
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I'd know something about the qualifications you're so proud of.
And I'm not colour blind - I know the difference between blue and green/yellow. You, apparently, can't see that - perhaps turn off the VPN so you can see the video at better than 360p.
This is perhaps a language barrier - that and an issue of assumption. You've seen some things which you assume are dangerous without knowing the context and are banging on your vaguely licensed drum about it. Me, I've seen a general mess which merits investigation rather than assumptions. But we both seem to agree it's an awful mess..
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Ok yes maybe I few off the handle a bit . I have put another picture with 3 arrows .
the Blue wire goes to the tap up . were the other 3 green/yellow wire marry up under the tape .
The Wire is solid Blue . ..
Also the Bare wire live or dead should have at least have clamp protector on it
Monkeh:
--- Quote from: Labrat101 on February 06, 2021, 08:55:48 pm ---Ok yes maybe I few off the handle a bit . I have put another picture with 3 arrows .
the Blue wire goes to the tap up . were the other 3 green/yellow wire marry up under the tape .
The Wire is solid Blue . ..
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No, no it isn't. Look at it at the base of the tape. It is clearly green/yellow. It makes no sense for a blue wire to go there, none of the cables used in the installation will have blue wires. E: Possible exception of 3+E used for two way lighting, I guess that probably does. But it won't be back here..
What the condition of that joint is is a complete unknown, which is why this mess needs dealing with, but it's not obviously dangerous.
tkamiya:
I'm in US. I had A/C mess before.
According to my lawyer, I had two choices.
1) Have the installer yank out what they did and pay me back the whole cost
2) Have a new installer FIX what's wrong and sue the first for the cost of repair
Having the first one do the right thing wasn't even discussed. At that point, either they can't or they won't was well established.
Ian.M:
--- Quote from: tkamiya on February 07, 2021, 01:52:31 am ---I'm in US. I had A/C mess before.
According to my lawyer, I had two choices.
1) Have the installer yank out what they did and pay me back the whole cost
2) Have a new installer FIX what's wrong and sue the first for the cost of repair
Having the first one do the right thing wasn't even discussed. At that point, either they can't or they won't was well established.
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Yep. Dave's been dicking around with their idiots for over two months now since I suggested it would probably need legal action:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on December 04, 2020, 10:26:20 am ---
--- Quote from: Ian.M on December 04, 2020, 10:03:12 am ---So post your photos to a new topic there, and when they are horrified, find a code enforcement contact to email them to. I suspect you are going to need to stop payment and contact your lawyer . . .
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Have posted.
https://www.electriciansforums.net/threads/is-this-aircon-wiring-install-legal.191943/
Lawyer? Are you serious? Why? So I can pay them hundreds of bucks to send a nasty letter :-DD
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and no-one (including Dave) knows for sure if their remediation is up to current code, + they've dunned him for the extra cost of the wiring that *should* have been included in the original quote:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on February 04, 2021, 09:40:30 am ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on February 04, 2021, 09:36:45 am ---Did they fix the isolator up?
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New dedicated wiring back to the mains fuse box and a dedicated circuit braker installed. It did cost me the cabling though as they claimed it was perfectly fine and legal to install into the existing mains power point wiring given the rating.
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or if it wasn't and their contention tapping the socket circuit was legal is true, then what about the islotator they should have fitted if they were doing it that way?
@Dave,
Get a qualified person to isolate the aircon and socket circuits and check the connections in those junction boxes and in the aircon itself. If you are tempted to check them your self *DON"T* tell us *YOU* looked at them, just whether or not they were OK. ;)
Also ask on electriciansforums.net if current code requires a local isolator for a new install of an aircon of the type you have on a dedicated circuit. You'll then have a decent idea whether you should get an independent electrician in to sort it out for peace of mind, possibly fitting local isolators to all the aircons if that's current code, or whether its good enough as-is.
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