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sleemanj:
Which is more likely, your ISP has gone out of their way, setting up special firewall rules and packet inspection in order to block access to an innocuous website of a 3D printer manufacturer, or; the 3D printer manufacturer, or shopify, or cloudflare, automatically blocked access to an IP range which happens to include your IP address because there was an influx of bots from said range.

Occam's Razor. Your ISP almost certainly doesn't care enough about 3D printer manufacturers to go to any lengths to stop you accessing them.

Don't trust what ISP support people tell you, they don't know shit, they just want to get you off the phone.

ve7xen:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on April 11, 2023, 09:14:49 pm ---I've been using OpenDNS for a few years.

But just looked, and it apparently now belongs to Cisco? >:(

--- End quote ---

Since 2015.

If you just want a public resolver with similar security features, try Quad9 that is operated as a Swiss not-for-profit. This (and OpenDNS) don't claim or attempt to give you a pure DNS view though, which if you are anti-blocking-stuff is not what you want.

@rbh: Aside from what your ISP has told you to get you off the phone, what evidence do you have that www.elegoo.com is 'blocked' by them? It seems highly unlikely that your ISP would be blocking anything hosted on CloudFlare or Shopify, and Elegoo is way too niche/small potatoes to attract a specific block. What troubleshooting have you done? What DNS resolution are you getting? What does the error look like? How do you know it's not that your ISP has been blocked by these sites and not the other way around?

RoGeorge:

--- Quote from: bdunham7 on April 11, 2023, 08:49:37 pm ---I use Google DNS (8.8.8.8 ) and had the same issue.  Changed to 1.1.1.1 and I was able to access www.elegoo.com.

Hmmm.

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I've just clicked your link and the elegoo page opened.  Browsing from EU/Romania.  Firefox, Ubuntu 22.04.
Here we have other things blocked by law, i.e holocaust denial or antisemitic content, hate speech, etc.

@rhb
- Usually, http is blocked by Firefox, has to be specifically enabled from about:config variables (do not enforce https or something)
- Disable certificate website verification, unless you do online shopping.
- Don't use Chrome, it has extra "protection", hard to remove.  There are degooglified versions of Chrome, but I didn't try.
- Another one browser to try is Wolf Browser, a Firefox with less call home.
- Tor browser is also good to try, it uses tor network and tunnels the traffic to random output locations, and access the requested webpage from there.  As a result, if you connect a few times, you may catch a connection outside US and escape the censorship.
- Even better, VPN, where you can choose the output point deliberately outside US (as opposed to Tor browser, where the location is at random), but for VPN you'll have to pay a monthly subscription.

I've heard in USA is in preparation some sort of "Patriot Act" but for Internet.  If you access things not allowed by "The Ministry of Truth", $1mil and up to 20 years in jail, and you'll have no rights to question anything.  No idea if this is true or not, I don't follow news, but watch the video linked here:  https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-tiktok/msg4796921/#msg4796921

rhb:
At this point I'm just going to get Starlink.  I don't see Musk blocking educational kit vendors.

The present SCOTUS would never allow the sort of censorship you describe if properly presented for a decision.  But the court may only make rulings in response to legal petitions.  This is by design.  If the petitioner presents a flawed argument it will be dismissed with the suggestion that it be reframed if the court feels the subject has merit.  Or with prejudice if they think the basic premise lacks merit.

I'm going to dig and then contact the people who are supposed to represent me.  I am *not* happy and shall be persistent.  And it's perfect grist for the news media.

Reg

ataradov:
Both sites mentioned here work for me with 1.1.1.1 DNS. For elegoo.com, I had to manually go to https://elegoo.com. Withut https, it breaks, but this break is on their side.

The issue here seems to be site owner incompetence rather than some blocking.

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