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magic:

--- Quote from: RoGeorge on April 12, 2023, 01:50:14 pm ---
--- Quote from: BravoV on April 12, 2023, 12:29:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: madires on April 12, 2023, 12:00:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: RoGeorge on April 12, 2023, 09:22:26 am ---
--- Code: ---$ host rt.com
rt.com has address 81.196.9.130

$ host rt.com 1.1.1.1
rt.com has address 91.215.41.4

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81.196.8.0/23 is RCS & RDS Business, while 91.215.40.0/22 is DDOS-GUARD LTD.

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Tons of EU countries are blocked from accessing the evil RT.COM, this to protect the innocent citizens from being exposed to the truth ... errr ... devil propagandas.  And the people also are not smart enough yet. :-DD

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Doh, I didn't check any further, sorry.  Now I've tried to open rt.com, and it doesn't work.  :o
Firefox says wrong certificate, while Brave says this:

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You can connect over HTTP to the IP directly and it shows a message, I presume it's something along the lines of "access unathorized by decision of Whatever Administration for Communication and Stuff". Is this what Romanian looks like?

http://81.196.9.130/

I suppose you would see the same if you forced unencrypted HTTP conneciton to RT.com.

edit
I can connect just fine from here if I bypass the DNS fuckery 8)

RoGeorge:

--- Quote from: madires on April 12, 2023, 02:41:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: Halcyon on April 12, 2023, 12:59:41 pm ---I consider traffic shaping part of net neutrality as well, some providers will give certain traffic lower priority on it's network (such as torrents) while others don't bother since they recognise it's not up to the provider to determine what traffic is "more important" to their customers. I can see why some providers (like satellite or wireless) might do it, since it's a very finite and shared medium, but there is no real reason to do it on fixed wire connections.

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Absolutely! However, it's a bit more complex as we need some traffic engineering for specific purposes. For example, all routing related things (routing protocols and other important stuff) get the highest priority by default, because they are needed to keep the network running. Another example is VoIP which also requires some prioritization for obvious reasons. If you're a carrier/ISP/telco you might have to adhere to SLAs.

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This is not traffic shaping, it's blocking, Halcyon, it's censoring.  Don't try to deflect the facts by twisting/stretching/redefining the meaning of words.

Cutting and limiting communication was one of the pillars during Ceausescu regime, here, in Romania, some 30-40 years ago.  West is doing the same now.  I've seen this before.  Wasn't fun, and didn't end well.

RoGeorge:

--- Quote from: magic on April 12, 2023, 04:13:27 pm ---
You can connect over HTTP to the IP directly and it shows a message, I presume it's something along the lines of "access unathorized by decision of Whatever Administration for Communication and Stuff". Is this what Romanian looks like?

http://81.196.9.130/

I suppose you would see the same if you forced unencrypted HTTP conneciton to RT.com.

edit
I can connect just fine from here if I bypass the DNS fuckery 8)

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Doesn't work from here, I get a webpage with this Romanian text:

--- Quote ---Acces neautorizat

Accesul dumneavoastră către acest site a fost restricționat în baza Deciziei Preşedintelui Autorităţii Naţionale pentru Administrare şi Reglementare în Comunicaţii nr.145/2021
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Which translates to "Unauthorized Access (title).   Your access to this site was restricted based on Decision of the President of the National Authority for Administering and Regulations of Telecommunications - decision number 145/2021"

No idea what 145/2021 is, and don't want to know.  I don't care to read rt.com, I was never reading that anyway, but I do care about censorship.

magic:
It seems to mean that 144 domains have already been blocked in Romania by the early March (which is, IIRC, when the eurosoyuz ban on RT came into effect).

edit
Wait, 2021? :o
Either it was banned before the war for some reason or the numbers don't mean what I think they do.
Meh, whatever.

RoGeorge:
Meanwhile I've searched with Google for the text of that Romanian decision from 2021.  There is nowhere online, and I'm not the only one that couldn't find Decizia 145/2021:  https://www.reddit.com/r/Romania/comments/i7qblc/jos_cenzura_sau_ce/

And this is the official list of decisions from 2021, where I see no 145/2021
https://www.cdep.ro/pls/legis/legis_pck.lista_anuala?an=2021&emi=5,362&tip=17&rep=0

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