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| bd139:
--- Quote from: Bud on January 24, 2020, 01:27:51 am ---It is pretty lousy security if oscilloscopes can be sneaked out of military facilities. Wonder what else was taken out. The caller's story smells fishy. --- End quote --- LOL it's really not. I worked for a big defence contractor and stuff kept getting nicked all the time. Then someone flew some planes into some buildings, we suddenly got turnstiles and huge concerete block crash fences, vehicle and person searches by MP5 wielding MoD police. Nothing ever went missing again! :-DD --- Quote from: donotdespisethesnake on January 24, 2020, 11:24:44 pm ---I can understand that an investigator would be hired to track down some expensive equipment, there are specialist asset recovery companies. What I am more skeptical about is that an investigator would expect people to just hand over stuff after being informed it is "stolen". Surely they would always get police involved, who would have a copy of a crime report detailing the serial numbers. --- End quote --- It probably works often enough and cheaply enough that it's worth a try. No one wants to involve a lawyer or courts because that eats into the profit on the asset recovery company. |
| Stray Electron:
--- Quote from: blacksheeplogic on January 24, 2020, 05:42:03 am --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on January 24, 2020, 03:39:15 am ---Yep, I wouldn't do a thing until a court order shows up. --- End quote --- Yep, and maybe they will accompany that court order with a change of receiving. --- End quote --- Not unless the OP purchased it KNOWING that it was stolen. Since the OP bought this via E-bay that would be a TOUGH charge to make stick. Short of having audio or video tape of the OP and the seller discussing that the item was stolen, that would be a tough charge to make stick anyway. |
| thm_w:
--- Quote from: Stray Electron on January 24, 2020, 02:01:15 am --- None of this story is adding up. You say that you got it from a local TE dealer that you know and trust. But if this item was stolen, then where did the dealer get it from? Or is he running a stolen TE fencing operation? If the investigator was legit they would have come to you in person and shown ID, and not called you on the phone! --- End quote --- This is the same thing that happened in the Agilent ebay thread, everyone doubted the lawyers calls, emails, etc. It was all legit. The equipment was given to a recycler to scrap, they sold it instead of scrapping it, so they wanted to recover the gear. I wouldn't be surprised if its a similar issue here. |
| james_s:
That's different than stolen. If it's stolen property you can be arrested for receiving or possession of stolen property. If it was sold and intended to be scrapped, I'd tell them to piss off and say I don't have it anymore. I'm morally opposed to scrapping useful equipment and wish there was a way to prosecute those who are so wasteful with taxpayer purchased items. It's paid for by the public and should be available to members of the public when it is disposed of, otherwise I don't want my tax money paying for it. |
| Stray Electron:
--- Quote from: thm_w on January 24, 2020, 11:41:26 pm --- This is the same thing that happened in the Agilent ebay thread, everyone doubted the lawyers calls, emails, etc. It was all legit. The equipment was given to a recycler to scrap, they sold it instead of scrapping it, so they wanted to recover the gear. I wouldn't be surprised if its a similar issue here. --- End quote --- I'll respond to your last statement first; The big difference here is that the OP got a phone call whereas the OP of the 'Scary HP Letter" thread got a letter from a real lawyer. In fact several people on this forum got the same letter, including your's truely. The fact this OP got a phone call and not a visit from some kind of LE tells me that this is a scam. In response to your first statement: I got one of those letters too and that letter was never "legit" IMO even though it came from a lawyer. The Scary Letter claimed the items contained "HP Intellectual Property" and told the owners not to sell the item. There was no inference that the items were stolen, instead they implied that the owner's couldn't own the items that they had legitimately purchased due to containing IP. And we still don't know what the true story behind all of it was, someone, not HP and not the lawyer, speculated that the items had been fire damaged and that they were possibly damaged and that Agilent, now Keysight, was worried that the 10 year used items bearing the name HEWLETT PACKARD and sold by a surplus dealer would somehow damage Keysight's reputation! I guess the IP argument included the B&K meter that the lawyer included in the letter as well! While both of these events involve the purchase of used equipment and someone (not the seller) wanting it "back", the similarities end there. |
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