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Electro Detective:
Landlord wannabees that buy property cheap and or when the loan interest rates are low,
expecting to fix and spend nothing maintaining said properties, whilst 'tenants pay it off for them'  :clap:
deserve to be out of pocket, and lucky if the greedy lazy jerks don't lose their own house put up as security collateral, when hard times come   ::)

That said, there are realistic landlords out there who screen their tenants properly,
and both groups co-operate to get by during genuine economic hard times,
or new age style economic upheavals, marketed as a global health risk, apparently working great so far  ;)

But you don't have to be a sucker and wait months/years to get back an abused un-rentable/un-sellable property
from criminal gutter trash that should never have been born.

I've seen bad tenants get the arse legally and a few times not so legally..

Legally, if done properly, they can be gone in two to four weeks max

It's up to the landlord to research how to do it right, with local police in attendance for the landlords RIGHT to a  property inspection,
take pictures and fill in a Property Report form, in case they trash the place any further, 
and ask the police to serve and witness the VACATE notice.

Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should a landlord deal un-witnessed with a bad tenant once things begin to go south, and vice versa

If they are not gone by the vacate date, the police rock up and get the assh0les out

If that's not possible, pay an armed licensed security mob who specialize in violence to get it done,   :-* :-*
and hire a truck to load up and turf their furniture and belongings where they prefer,
or if they don't care or uncooperative, take it to a charity outlet or local tip 

This way you'll pay once, cry once, scum gone, have the property back, and decide what's best for you > repair/rent, repair/sell,
or sell 'as is' cheaper to a buyer who will repair/renovate it, so you can walk away..  :phew:   

OTOH if the landlord has been a cheapskate bean counting ass, talking down to tenants and refusing fair requests to maintain the property,
they deserve serial bad tenants FOREVER

@ Landlords: which type of landlord are you, fair or foul?  :popcorn:

maginnovision:
I know my grandfather when he bought his first apartment complex was too relaxed as to tenants. Lots of damage, evictions, legal issues. He eventually sold it and bought a larger unit. He now has management who have very selective screening. Other family members have also had tenant troubles. One condo sustained 40K in damage and the tenant was there for 8 months and only paid for 4 of those. Usually these things don't happen but the more property you have the more trouble you have. The best idea is to find a good management company to take care of your properties and not try to do it yourself.

nctnico:

--- Quote from: maginnovision on March 28, 2020, 11:20:03 pm ---I know my grandfather when he bought his first apartment complex was too relaxed as to tenants. Lots of damage, evictions, legal issues. He eventually sold it and bought a larger unit. He now has management who have very selective screening. Other family members have also had tenant troubles. One condo sustained 40K in damage and the tenant was there for 8 months and only paid for 4 of those. Usually these things don't happen but the more property you have the more trouble you have. The best idea is to find a good management company to take care of your properties and not try to do it yourself.

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As usual with investments you need to diversify. And when dealing with long term customers (that is what tenants are) you need to do good screening. Getting advice from an attorney should help create a standard rental contract which avoids pitfalls. There are strong regulations to protect tenants in many places but it doesn't give tenants carte blanche.

james_s:
There are bad landlords out there of course, and most tenants are fine people BUT it takes only one nightmare tenant to leave quite a long lasting impression. Screening is good but doesn't catch everything and like the HR people at companies it can easily screen out some really good ones who simply don't have enough of the right kind of history.

Tenant should have rights but so should landlords. There should be circumstances under which it is easy to kick somebody out rapidly. If they are damaging the property, generating a large number of police responses to the property, engaging in illegal activity, that sort of thing. If they stop paying the rent that's another thing where there should be some wiggle room but it shouldn't take 8 months to evict them. If we're going to offer such heavy protections and force a landlord to allow someone who has stopped paying to continue living there then maybe we (society, government, etc) should be compensating the landlord. Without landlords willing to rent properties, there are not properties for people to rent. We saw that here during the last housing bubble when renting out property was no longer cost effective vs selling it so scores of apartment complexes got converted to condos which were no longer affordable to most of the people who were living in them. The town I live in went from having about 10 apartment complexes to having *one*, the rest all became condos.

fourfathom:

--- Quote from: Electro Detective on March 28, 2020, 11:04:43 pm ---But you don't have to be a sucker and wait months/years to get back an abused un-rentable/un-sellable property from criminal gutter trash that should never have been born.
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This kind of depends on where you are, doesn't it?  You should see some of the "tenant's rights" rules in San Francisco (and better/worse yet, some of the recently-proposed ones).  Probably not years in a for-cause eviction, but easily many months.

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