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Just lost my job thanks to COVID-19, who else ?

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nctnico:

--- Quote from: ddavidebor on March 29, 2020, 10:55:12 pm ---I was changing job when the pandemic started. All interview cancelled, all position suspended.
Moved country, can't go back, can't work here.

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In hindsight: don't move before having a signature on a contract!

Electro Detective:

--- Quote from: nctnico on March 30, 2020, 06:11:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: ddavidebor on March 29, 2020, 10:55:12 pm ---I was changing job when the pandemic started. All interview cancelled, all position suspended.
Moved country, can't go back, can't work here.

--- End quote ---

In hindsight: don't move before having a -signature- on a contract!


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 :-+  YES, in stable economic times with no global outbreak of flying pigs spreading the sniffles and PS

But that  -signature-  won't be worth the ink used if the business is in a next level shtf lock down and doors closed
or jobs need to be culled, and locals and long timer employees favored first

There's most likely fine print in work contracts that bails out the employer if they are gov coaxed and or hoaxed from business operations 
and if you're a foreigner in another nation expecting some form of international shafted tourist contractual 'rights',
good luck chasing up someone at the embassy when they are self imprisoned at their home or shoe box apartment,
zealously guarding their hoarded toilet paper stocks in the event of a surprise zombie offensive  :popcorn:

i.e. FYI to anyone thinking about it: this is not the time for a major sea change or career upheaval or to 'follow your dreams'  :horse:

ddavidebor:

--- Quote from: Electro Detective on March 30, 2020, 11:02:36 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on March 30, 2020, 06:11:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: ddavidebor on March 29, 2020, 10:55:12 pm ---I was changing job when the pandemic started. All interview cancelled, all position suspended.
Moved country, can't go back, can't work here.

--- End quote ---

In hindsight: don't move before having a -signature- on a contract!


--- End quote ---

 :-+  YES, in stable economic times with no global outbreak of flying pigs spreading the sniffles and PS

But that  -signature-  won't be worth the ink used if the business is in a next level shtf lock down and doors closed
or jobs need to be culled, and locals and long timer employees favored first

There's most likely fine print in work contracts that bails out the employer if they are gov coaxed and or hoaxed from business operations 
and if you're a foreigner in another nation expecting some form of international shafted tourist contractual 'rights',
good luck chasing up someone at the embassy when they are self imprisoned at their home or shoe box apartment,
zealously guarding their hoarded toilet paper stocks in the event of a surprise zombie offensive  :popcorn:

i.e. FYI to anyone thinking about it: this is not the time for a major sea change or career upheaval or to 'follow your dreams'  :horse:

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I honestly do not care - got rather fed up of working and living in Italy.

thinkfat:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 27, 2020, 05:58:14 am ---
--- Quote from: Red Squirrel on March 26, 2020, 11:33:26 pm ---Sorry to hear.   Sucks that companies are so greedy. So many people getting laid off over something temporary.  The job market has always been crap it probably is even worse now though grocery stores and fast food places might possibly be hiring I guess...      Even airlines have been laying off like crazy from what I hear.  Lot of pilots are going to be manning drive thrus I think "Welcome to McDonalds this is your capt... err, uhhhh, may I take your order?".

As much as I don't like still having to go into the office, I'm lucky I work in something that is essential so there is a rather low risk of me being laid off.   The company stock is taking a dive though - all stocks are, I just hope this does not actually trigger layoffs even though it will go back up.

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I don't think it's greed, a lot of companies have pretty thin margins so if revenue dries up and expenses don't shrink to follow then things can get ugly pretty fast.

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Yep, I'm afraid most people don't realize that most companies are not sitting on loads on money waiting to be spent. Money rushes through a company like diarrhea, if you don't keep up the supply, they're quick to dry out and die.

Black Phoenix:
Currently working part time here in Shenzhen for a company back in Portugal. At least the IT/Networking is still needing people, since someone have to support the systems that most use to work remotely.

But yes, I worry a little about my wife, a client support in a company that sells offset printing machinery. She is currently at home because of our newborn, until July, but after that if this still continues we don't know what could happen, since 2019 was a year that the revenue saw a decrease compared with other years.

Of course I always have Portugal but as a country that had put all their eggs in the tourism basket after the 2008 crisis and the Troika (European Commission (EC), the European Central Bank (ECB) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF)) bailout/economic hoes that affected Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece and Spain (the so called PIIGS as we got to be known outside, originally only the 4 Mediterranean states) Portugal reformed everything to tourism, were most of the buildings in Lisbon were bought and reproposed to be Hostels and Hotels, Restaurants, Tourism/Souvenir/Traditional Arts Shops, etc.

Now with this most of tourism is non existent, specially in Lisbon, the south of the country know by their beaches and resorts will be mostly empty, leading to unemployment and lack of seasonal working, as we approach the high season (May to September). As an IT guy probably I would get something, even if it was fixing computers, something I've done since I was 16 to get money for my own things, but regarding her and the kid I don't know. Although I try not to think too much into the future and just adapt to the present.

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