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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2023, 10:21:32 am »
I know someone on here has pinned down T/F's real world identity, and mentioned they do actually have a job in engineering, well, maybe something like 30 jobs in the last two decades

I don't know his real identity, don't want to, and IIRC he himself stated such a large number of employers.

When I started, it was acceptable to leave a job in <1month or >2years. Anything in between raised questions, with 6months requiring a satisfactory explanation. I appreciate jobs have changed over the decades, but that's still a useful rule of thumb.

There are different "rules" for contractors, of course.
I don't think many companies even need full time EE's. For example the place i worked at wanted me to design a new version of their trailer controller (hydraulic and movement control, DMX, etc.) but that's the kind of thing they only need once every 5-10 years and they only need it done once.
As soon as the design is tested and in production, the EE is no longer needed, assuming no problems arise.
So for instances like this it makes sense to be a short time employee/contractor.
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2023, 10:48:21 am »
I know someone on here has pinned down T/F's real world identity, and mentioned they do actually have a job in engineering, well, maybe something like 30 jobs in the last two decades... but people do keep employing them somehow.
I have come across some people who are very good at presenting themselves as experts but can't get any real engineering done. As soon as an employer realises this, such persons find themselves fired.
I wish it was like that here in Finland, too.  Here, firing people is difficult and risky, so they tend to be promoted (to another department in larger organizations) instead.

I once made the mistake of becoming extremely surprised and saying it out loud, when in a meeting a webmaster proudly declared he had zero understanding of how server certificates work.  I ended up getting about 1,000 SMS messages from him calling me names, as he also liked to take alcohol with his bipolar medication causing him to lose all inhibition.  I ended up switching jobs, because even if I'd gone to the trouble of getting him convicted of harassment – and I wasn't the only one he targeted there like that –, he'd still have kept his job there.  (In the same university, the administrative director was fired because of misuse of his position and uni funds; he got a chair as the professor of Art History as compensation.)



Because of weird and unbelievable stuff that has happened to myself (because I have not perceived the warning signs that other people would have), I'm somewhat leaning towards taking Faringdon's tales at their face value.  I do understand there is a high possibility of them telling tall tales, but for me, the fact that these threads are read and discoverable through web searches, leading others wondering about something similar to a part of what Faringdon describes, I think it is worth it for at least someone to answer to it at face value –– now that others have made it absolutely clear how unlikely/unbelievable/unreliable that post likely is.

She told us , something that she had told him, ie, that the company, had offered a particular  member of staff in the company, an extra £25k per year in wages for every year  that my friend,  the electronics engineer , was still at the company.
This could happen in a dysfunctional company that relies on lying and cheating to its customers and workers to stay in business.

That member of staff would be tasked to keep the engineer scared, in the belief that they may lose their job at any point, and would not find any work elsewhere, while making sufficient profit to the company that the extra £25k/year makes business sense.  Even though it would make more sense to just pay the engineer that additional £25k/year, there are two reasons why the admin might not want to do that: because they despise engineers and want to keep the wage gap between themselves and the engineer, and because if they paid that to one, they'd eventually had to pay more to other engineers as well.

Such companies always fail eventually.  Their only hope is to get bought up by a bigger company, and get a golden handshake before the negative value of the operations is exposed.  Usually, there is some kind of criminal activity afoot also, either VAT fraud, product fraud, or buying/selling products to conflict zones against the law.  (For example, prohibited electronics to Russia or China; that's very lucrative right now.  It is easier to hide if you also do "legitimate" electronics business also.  Thus, the presence of a real engineer in the company might be a requirement to avoid being caught in a government check that would likely expose the illegalities, putting the admin/Cxx at risk of prison sentences.)

While this sounds "fantastical", exactly such a case is right now in the news here in Finland, one of the "least corrupted countries in the world".

this Ops Director told him  that he had been asked , by the MD, to try and get the guy set up with a Phillipino Bride….and arrange for the guy to get screwed over and bankrupted in the process….so that he had no money or resources to use to actually ever get up and go and get a job with a different company.
That is purely personal, with the company stuff just a diversion in the hopes the ops director doesn't realize it is personal and does it "for the company".

This kind of social games and backstabbing is common in shady businesses.

In another co, his engine oil had been drained whilst in the company car park on friday of his first week...he only (luckily)  realised because he had just moved to the company, and was  due to travel back to his old flat to bring his stuff up on the saturday...and checking the oil before a long journey...noticed that the oil had been drained right down.
This sounds like your friend has one of those unfortunate personalities that immediately garners him enemies due to wonky first impression.

I've had that happen multiple times.  It's something to do with how I present myself and communicate with others, that is somehow in dissonance with expectations.  However, it tends to not last, because I do love to try and help, and I always spread the glory from "wins" around; am a team player in that sense, if you will.  But ever since high school, I've had quite a few people confess/apologise to me that they initially thought I was a colossal asshole, but they now actually really like working with me.  I've gotten so used to it I don't even get surprised anymore.

Never assume it is the company behind it, when it is more likely one of the cow-orkers thinks you're an asshole and wants to anonymously hurt you.
Here in Finland, it is usually done by starting odd rumours and claims behind your back, rather than messing with cars or property.
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2023, 11:24:23 am »
F's stories might make sense if it were one or two bad experiences, I have worked for a company and left within a very short period of time because it was clear the boss had certain problems.  That's just life sometimes, these things don't show up in the interviews.  Later bumped into a guy who had  worked with them and he told me I got away with it, they have been truly awful to some people.  Obviously I will not name them as I don't want to be sued!  In general I've found most employers and employees in engineering companies to be good people who just want to get the work done.   They are not sabotaging cars of colleagues, who the hell does that?  So I don't believe the majority of what F writes, I suspect he himself has some undisclosed issues that trigger these clashes, if they're even real.
 
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2023, 07:58:50 am »
F's stories might make sense if it were one or two bad experiences....
Yep. If everyone else is always the problem, maybe the problem isn't everyone else...
 
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2023, 08:41:28 am »
F's stories might make sense if it were one or two bad experiences, I have worked for a company and left within a very short period of time because it was clear the boss had certain problems.  That's just life sometimes, these things don't show up in the interviews.  Later bumped into a guy who had  worked with them and he told me I got away with it, they have been truly awful to some people.  Obviously I will not name them as I don't want to be sued!  In general I've found most employers and employees in engineering companies to be good people who just want to get the work done.   They are not sabotaging cars of colleagues, who the hell does that?  So I don't believe the majority of what F writes, I suspect he himself has some undisclosed issues that trigger these clashes, if they're even real.
Yep, i also had a pretty bad experience working at one company, where the boss was passionate about what he does and his company, but he had trust issues and couldn't trust anyone to do any important work, so in the end he had so much riding on his shoulders that he was constantly too busy to pay attention to what's going on around him.
In a sense he was carrying the whole company, because he didn't trust anyone to share the load and responsibility.
But in the end it made it really hard to talk to him or get any decisions made, which killed productivity and as of now the company has gone under.
Which is a shame, since he found a really good niche, with a very high demand, but his mismanagement caused the company to stall.
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2023, 07:03:52 pm »
I know someone on here has pinned down T/F's real world identity, and mentioned they do actually have a job in engineering, well, maybe something like 30 jobs in the last two decades

I don't know his real identity, don't want to, and IIRC he himself stated such a large number of employers.

When I started, it was acceptable to leave a job in <1month or >2years. Anything in between raised questions, with 6months requiring a satisfactory explanation. I appreciate jobs have changed over the decades, but that's still a useful rule of thumb.

There are different "rules" for contractors, of course.

No, I have no intention of sharing his identity, although for longer term members who remember the SMPS course, abortive SMPS UK government petition etc would be able to work it out. I didn't go out of my way to find him, it was more idle curiosity and a quick search.

His linkedin profile indicates around 42 companies up to June, with durations between a 1 month and just over 2 years. He's clearly a contractor, maybe a couple of the early ones were salaried. There are some respectable names in the 20xx's, Alstom (ship drives, >2 years) and ABB (high power motor drives), Alcatel Lucent (6mo), Panasonic (11mo) Eaton (5mo). The much talked about Dyson in previous years was only a 3 month stint. More surprising, from the flurry of scary EV charger questions a year or so back was that he was doing a stint at one of the more respected names in EV chargers at the time, although it doesn't look like they let him loose on the current product line developments, likewise a well known solar power storage company (I won't name the more recent companies).  Of course there is a very large smattering of LED lighting companies in there, probably some of them bottom feeders / importers.

Maybe his grudge has come from the lighting importers, some of them are almost certainly small fry (I didn't look them all up) but he certainly can't claim to have never worked for respectable and professional companies, even if only on a hired hand basis. In doing so, he's either lying here or lying on his profile. Maybe he should have learned more from these opportunities.

All in all, it's difficult to pin down the background for his behavior, whether it's down to some treatment by one or two companies (there are bound to be a few in a total of ~42), the way he (fails to) fit in (all the 'they're hiding stuff from me'), never being offered a salaried position or just trolling. He certainly can't claim lack of experience as an excuse for some of the totally foolish questions he asks (unless he suffers from total lack of retention or never actually got his hands dirty), or indeed his favorite troll diatribes.
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2023, 07:35:20 pm »
troll diatribes.

He really seems to be taking the Mickey, against the forum and its moderators, now.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/renewable-energy/earthed-enclosures-and-offlien-smps-pcbs/msg5047738/?topicseen#msg5047738

Which seems to be identical (or remarkably similar), to previous thread 'question(s)'.

He is even repeating "Would you agree?", and "Do you agree", perhaps because it has been recently highlighted as a quirk of his, in another thread?
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2023, 08:54:12 pm »
Best Regards, Chris
 
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2023, 09:09:20 pm »
What annoys me is that if I ignore a user, I still see topics started by that user.  That shouldn't happen IMHO.
 
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2023, 02:52:17 am »
MK14:  taking the Mickey?

A UK idiom or expression?

In US EN, "slip a mickey" means adding a sleeping powder to someones drink....

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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2023, 03:35:03 am »
MK14:  taking the Mickey?
≈ histoire à dormir debout
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mensonge
 
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2023, 06:10:19 am »
MK14:  taking the Mickey?

A UK idiom or expression?

In US EN, "slip a mickey" means adding a sleeping powder to someones drink....

j

Sorry, I should have been more considerate, on the internation audience here.

It means (I meant), they are (I've used internet searches to help me explain it), 'mocking' us, teasing us, 'making fun, laughing at us, behind our backs'.

If you attempt to follow the 'Treez' *character*, onto other platforms.  In some case(s), they seem to attempt to justify and explain, what they are doing here, on EEVblog forum.

(I've intentionally not linked to it here, I've lost the link, for now, anyway).

They have been extremely upset and mentally hurt, over some of the comments (from a long time in the past), on EEVblog forum.  Especially surrounding them being mocked on here, for not taking the necessary (or essential, as many of us see it), safety precautions, and safety design, with electronic things.

Instead of (correctly), understanding that failing to make/use/design electronics in certain ways.  Can literally lead to unsafe situations, and even injuries or death(s).  They seem to prefer to mock us, and disregard, standard practices.

In such places and in some cases.  There appear to be the original, and (electrically speaking) correct, ORIGINAL (probably real), question(s) (opening posts).  Which go into huge details and seem to be properly constructed, electronics forum questions.

But by the time they get posted here, they have almost all the real details, removed from them.  To the point of turning those original questions, into a trolling, mockery type of situation.

Take a current example.

I seem to have come across the real, original question.  Which involves, a BLDC type motor (or similar), and its possible negative voltages, into the ADC pin of a microcontroller.  Hence possible precautions, against those transient or worse, signals damaging the ADC input pin.  Complete with sensible looking schematic and other perfectly reasonable looking technical details (if I remember, correctly).

I.e. Here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/opamp-inputting-to-microcontroller/msg5044837/#msg5044837

Hence, he is making posts, like this very recent one:

OK thanks, though i am novice level. Think Norris the novice.

Which to me, would seem like it is obvious, they are not telling the (full) truth, and are carrying out a massive set of, what I perceive as, 'attacks against this forum'.

They even (in another place on the internet), list the three forums, they are specifically targeting.

Hence me saying, this is intentional trolling (or whatever it needs to be called).

I don't think this forum should rely on perhaps thousands of EEVblog forum users, to have to attempt to activate the 'ignore' feature of this forum.  Especially since it doesn't really work properly (as already said in this thread and other places).  E.g. since their topics are still shown.

There is more (or much more) to this (including they are very significantly upset with this forum and other places), story, than I'm mentioning here.  But I'm not 100% sure of the details, and think it best, to not stir up too much trouble.

I suppose in summary:

They may have a big grudge against the EEVblog forum (and a small number of other, similar places), and perhaps its moderation team.  So, they like to make (apparently to me, at least) trolling threads, which are poking fun at our preference for reasonable safety standards, and professionalism, within electronics.  Which they perhaps see, as a pile of nonsense, on our part.
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2023, 07:51:34 am »
If you attempt to follow the 'Treez' *character*, onto other platforms.  In some case(s), they seem to attempt to justify and explain, what they are doing here, on EEVblog forum.

(I've intentionally not linked to it here, I've lost the link, for now, anyway).

While I understand avoiding anything that even resembles "doxxing", I think such information could be useful in this context.
There are lies, damned lies, statistics - and ADC/DAC specs.
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2023, 08:23:24 am »
While I understand avoiding anything that even resembles "doxxing", I think such information could be useful in this context.

There are at least three apparently good reasons, I haven't linked to recent findings.

Firstly, it takes far too long, to reach a very high degree of certainty, that a differently named forum user (on any forum, on the internet), is another Treez/Flyback/Farringdon account.
As an aside, they can't even spell their own user name correctly.  See here:
https://www.londonxlondon.com/london-area-guides/farringdon/

So, I've decided, that for the future.  I'd prefer to use better and more reliable methods.

Secondly, that information could easily be googled, to find a whole lot of other stuff, which I'm intentionally NOT mentioning.  As I'm nowhere near, 100% sure of what is really going on, and don't want to start up false stories/rumours.

(But the trolling is obvious enough, to call it out, without needing robust evidence).

Thirdly and MOST importantly.
I DON'T know what is going on in their head, or what they are really thinking.  So, I'm inherently stuck as to knowing their true motivations.

So, it seems fairly obvious they are up to no good, and being disruptive (trolling) on purpose.  But why and the fuller picture/story, involves too much speculation.

E.g. The past poster on here, (permanently banned) ETI.  It was obvious they were up to no good.  But precisely why they did it, and what they were thinking, inside their head, is unknown to us (outside of speculation).
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2023, 08:55:44 am »
There is also a Faringdon between Swindon and Oxford. Nice little country town centre :)
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2023, 09:00:05 am »
There is also a Faringdon between Swindon and Oxford. Nice little country town centre :)

My original source of information, was from here (the horses mouth):

Also, thats now two of us that spell my name wrong!....its supposed to be "Farringdon", after my favourite area of London.
..will see if i can get it changed.
 

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« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2023, 09:30:44 am »
There is also a Faringdon between Swindon and Oxford. Nice little country town centre :)

My original source of information, was from here (the horses mouth):

Also, thats now two of us that spell my name wrong!....its supposed to be "Farringdon", after my favourite area of London.
..will see if i can get it changed.

You are ... very trusting.

His latest posting is
OK thanks, though i am novice level. Think Norris the novice.
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2023, 10:17:33 am »
You are ... very trusting.

His latest posting is
OK thanks, though i am novice level. Think Norris the novice.

You're right.  They could be supplying false information, so my source (that user) could be invalid.
 

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« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2023, 10:24:13 am »
They could be supplying false information, so my source (that user) could be invalid.

... using either pronounciation of "invalid"!
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2023, 11:13:07 am »
It is also quite sad.

In forums like this one, others do not react to you as a person; they only react to what you have written.
Even when there is hostility and ridicule, it is not really personal, it cannot be; it can only be directed towards what has been written.

Changing the details of how one communicates is not too difficult.  Some traits, like me with my excess verbosity, can be difficult to get rid of, but when you understand that your output has details that rile up others, you can deal with it, and occasionally even change those details, so your output causes less discord.  (Pun intended.)

Becoming bitter, and trolling when others –– like myself; check our interaction history, Faringdon! –– are only trying to help you and those in the same position, is waste of energy, and more likely to drown yourself in depression and insecurity than do anything positive for anyone, even yourself.

The funky thing is, you can always just change directions, change details of how you communicate, and you'll be welcomed back to interact with others.

Think about that for a moment, and reflect on what that means about your (general plural you, meaning "all of us members on this forum") own interactions with others.  You can always simply choose to interact in a mutually beneficial way, and do it.  (Okay, sometimes we all fail, but all that is necessary is a Mea culpa, sorry: I misunderstood/miscommunicated and go on.)

Even if you vehemently disagree with some others about some specific detail, it is not a big thing.  It is perfectly okay to argue with them about that in one thread, and in another –– even concurrently –– have a very nice agreement on another.  This is how we evolve our understanding, by finding out the reasons why we disagree through discussions, and continually evaluate those reasons comparing them to our own, and therefore also evolving our opinions as our understanding increases.  Nobody is "ready", and everyone is still learning.  I myself am a complete bumbler hobbyist on the electronics side, a very beginner/novice in circuit design and such, while I've got quite a lot of experience in other areas like certain facets of programming.

I've even described how my own choices and refusal to give up (and even recognize the unhealthy obsessive attitude toward work I had), worked in socially unhealthy places, and didn't really learn how to correctly focus on the important parts of work, nor how to balance work and social life, and burned up –– twice, or three times, depending on how you count –– and ended up with apparently permanent neurological issues and recurrent depression I'm still trying to do something about.  (Such things cannot be "fixed" with pills, but one can learn how to work around such issues, and have a fulfilling life and work, I believe.)

So, if anyone is trolling here, they're like the idiot who interrupts a public lecture on an important new findings in science/technology, in order to "punish" one of the organizers they have a beef with.  They're only making themselves look like a colossal assshole, and annoy everyone else there who are just trying to learn and help others.

Think of the lost opportunity for learning – not for that one idiot, but for others as well, if they only had been honest and discussed whatever problems/difficulties they have.  There are about 8 billion people on this planet, and it is basically statistically guaranteed that several of them have similar problems, so why not utilize that and explore the possible solutions for those difficulties, instead of wasting time?

Like I started with, it is sad, in the depressing kind of way.
 
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2023, 11:46:12 am »
While I understand avoiding anything that even resembles "doxxing", I think such information could be useful in this context.

No. Just no. What purpose would it serve, except to satisfy some users' curiosity and voyeurism?

Faringdon/Treez is for real; he has been in the industry for a couple of decades; he has indeed worked a large number of jobs (whether as an employee or a contractor). I don't see why anybody would need more context here.
 
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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2023, 12:00:48 pm »
It is also quite sad.

In forums like this one, others do not react to you as a person; they only react to what you have written.
Even when there is hostility and ridicule, it is not really personal, it cannot be; it can only be directed towards what has been written.

Changing the details of how one communicates is not too difficult.  Some traits, like me with my excess verbosity, can be difficult to get rid of, but when you understand that your output has details that rile up others, you can deal with it, and occasionally even change those details, so your output causes less discord.  (Pun intended.)

Becoming bitter, and trolling when others –– like myself; check our interaction history, Faringdon! –– are only trying to help you and those in the same position, is waste of energy, and more likely to drown yourself in depression and insecurity than do anything positive for anyone, even yourself.

The funky thing is, you can always just change directions, change details of how you communicate, and you'll be welcomed back to interact with others.

Think about that for a moment, and reflect on what that means about your (general plural you, meaning "all of us members on this forum") own interactions with others.  You can always simply choose to interact in a mutually beneficial way, and do it.  (Okay, sometimes we all fail, but all that is necessary is a Mea culpa, sorry: I misunderstood/miscommunicated and go on.)

Even if you vehemently disagree with some others about some specific detail, it is not a big thing.  It is perfectly okay to argue with them about that in one thread, and in another –– even concurrently –– have a very nice agreement on another.  This is how we evolve our understanding, by finding out the reasons why we disagree through discussions, and continually evaluate those reasons comparing them to our own, and therefore also evolving our opinions as our understanding increases.  Nobody is "ready", and everyone is still learning.  I myself am a complete bumbler hobbyist on the electronics side, a very beginner/novice in circuit design and such, while I've got quite a lot of experience in other areas like certain facets of programming.

I've even described how my own choices and refusal to give up (and even recognize the unhealthy obsessive attitude toward work I had), worked in socially unhealthy places, and didn't really learn how to correctly focus on the important parts of work, nor how to balance work and social life, and burned up –– twice, or three times, depending on how you count –– and ended up with apparently permanent neurological issues and recurrent depression I'm still trying to do something about.  (Such things cannot be "fixed" with pills, but one can learn how to work around such issues, and have a fulfilling life and work, I believe.)

So, if anyone is trolling here, they're like the idiot who interrupts a public lecture on an important new findings in science/technology, in order to "punish" one of the organizers they have a beef with.  They're only making themselves look like a colossal assshole, and annoy everyone else there who are just trying to learn and help others.

Think of the lost opportunity for learning – not for that one idiot, but for others as well, if they only had been honest and discussed whatever problems/difficulties they have.  There are about 8 billion people on this planet, and it is basically statistically guaranteed that several of them have similar problems, so why not utilize that and explore the possible solutions for those difficulties, instead of wasting time?

Like I started with, it is sad, in the depressing kind of way.

Thanks, that is a very nice and insightful post!

I think some people get a big kick (psychological enjoyment), out of trolling and some other types of (bad) forum behaviour.  Perhaps amplified by the relatively anonymous (impersonal) nature of the internet.  This anonymity, can empower people to act and do things online, they wouldn't dare do, in real life, face to face, situations.

Although, what you rightly pointed out, that from a practical (logical, Mr Spock type of) point of view, what they are doing is a silly waste of everyone's time.  In practice, this psychological kick, high or brain Dopamine hit.

https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/dopamine

Can give some people, incentive, to keep on doing it.  Maybe why the advice is to totally ignore trolls and trolling, then they don't get their buzz out of it, which hopefully results in them stopping the annoying behaviour.

But in this case, they seem to just about always get responses, how ever bad, they seem to be acting.  Infact, it seems to be, their bad behaviour, actually increases the number of responses and interest in their threads.
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Online jpanhalt

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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2023, 12:01:33 pm »
Some traits, like me with my excess verbosity, can be difficult to get rid of ...

I admire anyone who can write with such agility.   :)  Over many decades, my time averaged 1h per double-spaced legal pad which converted to 2 hours per double-spaced typewritten text.  That was when I had a secretary/assistant to keyboard my scribbles.  Now that I do my own keyboarding, I probably don't even meet that benchmark.
 

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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #48 on: September 08, 2023, 10:17:36 am »
There is also a Faringdon between Swindon and Oxford. Nice little country town centre :)

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Re: Keeping hold of electronics engineers.
« Reply #49 on: September 08, 2023, 10:28:22 am »
Unfortunately that isn't the one. He just misspelled the other one. I'm sure it has pubs though.
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