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Keyboard question to European programmers
tom66:
I've not found it to be a particular issue. The major difference between British English keyboard and US English keyboard is the 3 is the number (#) sign on US, and GB pound on UK (£), However, the # key is mapped elsewhere. Also I believe the at (@) and double quote symbols are swapped. You can usually tell within a few minutes if the keyboard layout is wrong.
Nominal Animal:
I use modified Finnish keyboard layouts. Mapping and customizing them is trivial (in Linux), so I never paid any attention; the exact customizations depend on the physical layout and spacing. Even exact key response isn't too important to me; all I require is that keypresses are correctly registered even if you don't hit them exactly on center, and they don't squeak.
What does throw me off, is the key spacing (and therefore size). Switching between laptop-sized keyboards and desktop keyboards leads to lot of typos for me, which is a bit annoying.
Silicium81:
It is true that with the French azerty keyboard, you often have to use the AltGr key... For example: € ~ # { [ \ @ ] } are not with direct access! If your keyboard doesn't have a numeric keypad, the numbers aren't direct either! |O
It is largely the fault of our accents... é è ç à ù which take direct places :scared:
Nominal Animal:
--- Quote from: Silicium81 on March 08, 2023, 08:15:13 pm ---It is largely the fault of our accents... é è ç à ù which take direct places
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Ouch. Finnish only has three, Å (right of P), Ö (right of L), and Ä (right of Ö).
é is compose-grave/acute, followed by e.
è is Shift + compose-grave/acute, followed by e. (Similarly for à and ù.)
ç is AltGr + compose-grave/acute, followed by c.
(I can also get ä and ö via compose-¨^~ followed by a or o. I often use it for ï as in naïve.
Compose-grave/acute is a single key on the number row just left of backspace, and compose-¨^~ is just left of Enter on the Q..P row.
"Compose" just means the keypress by itself does not produce a visible output, and combines with the next keypress, almost always space or a letter.)
Compare to ~, which is AltGr + compose-¨^~ followed by a space, and ^, which is Shift + compose-¨^~ followed by a space. I use both quite comfortably, although they are less frequent (in text or source code I write) than accented letters are in French.
Because of the stuff I do, I often end up using accented letters, though. Because grave and acute accents are not used in Finnish, I do have difficulty remembering the difference between them, e.g. è vs. é, for example when writing Bézier (curve or surface). Other than that, I do not need to think what to press when I want a è or é, or á or à; only which one I actually want.
madires:
--- Quote from: ataradov on March 08, 2023, 12:28:47 am ---How do you even type ^ on a German keyboard? Wiki says it is an accent key used for combing with other characters.
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I simply press the ^ key. :-//
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