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| tooki:
--- Quote from: metebalci on March 28, 2023, 11:32:49 am ---…and at the moment I am in Switzerland where you can find I think 3 different keyboard layouts (German, French, Italian). --- End quote --- Oh, it’s way weirder than that. I think that the Italian part of Switzerland uses Italian keyboards, but I’m not sure; I’ve spent practically no time there. (Edit: wiki says they just use the Swiss French layout.) The French and German parts of Switzerland does not use the French, Italian, or German keyboards at all. They use the Swiss keyboard layout(s). I put the s in parentheses because it’s one physical layout and keycap labeling, but two key mappings in software. Basically, it’s two closely related variants of one layout. There are three keys that aren’t mapped identically: the Swiss German keyboard outputs ä/ö/ü on those keys by default, and à/é/è shifted. The Swiss French layout is the reverse: it outputs à/é/è by default and ä/ö/ü shifted. (This is reminiscent of how cinema subtitles worked here in Switzerland back when they used film: they didn’t use the subtitled prints from France and Germany, but rather a custom print that had the German (with Swiss orthography) and French subtitles simultaneously. Usually German in plain, French in italics.) |
| paulca:
The only one I need to go looking for the is the € Symbol. It's mapped under iso-8859-15 as the Euro extension to iso8859-1 western-latin. It's often on R.Alt + 4. € <-- hey it works! Sometimes. The shift number keys gives: !"£$%^&*()_+ The difference between this (UK105) is the " on 2 and £ on 3 replace the @ and # Those exist on the two keys beside enter as lL ;: '@ #~ The other one that can be hard to find is the | and both / and \ . These I lose particularly on nonUK euro keyboards. In work I know when the admins have been noisying around my work machine. They tend to forget to set my keyboard local back to UK. |
| metebalci:
--- Quote from: tooki on March 28, 2023, 06:01:18 pm --- --- Quote from: metebalci on March 28, 2023, 11:32:49 am ---…and at the moment I am in Switzerland where you can find I think 3 different keyboard layouts (German, French, Italian). --- End quote --- Oh, it’s way weirder than that. I think that the Italian part of Switzerland uses Italian keyboards, but I’m not sure; I’ve spent practically no time there. (Edit: wiki says they just use the Swiss French layout.) The French and German parts of Switzerland does not use the French, Italian, or German keyboards at all. They use the Swiss keyboard layout(s). I put the s in parentheses because it’s one physical layout and keycap labeling, but two key mappings in software. Basically, it’s two closely related variants of one layout. There are three keys that aren’t mapped identically: the Swiss German keyboard outputs ä/ö/ü on those keys by default, and à/é/è shifted. The Swiss French layout is the reverse: it outputs à/é/è by default and ä/ö/ü shifted. (This is reminiscent of how cinema subtitles worked here in Switzerland back when they used film: they didn’t use the subtitled prints from France and Germany, but rather a custom print that had the German (with Swiss orthography) and French subtitles simultaneously. Usually German in plain, French in italics.) --- End quote --- It is fun to be in a quadlingual country :) Yes you are right, I meant Swiss German not German layout but I saw now it has also French keys, I didnt know French speaking part uses the shifted keys by default. |
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