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| Richard Crowley:
--- Quote from: all_repair on June 04, 2015, 04:58:13 pm ---But it is for the religious bodies and the industries to reach a compromise. --- End quote --- Which is exactly why the law in the US uses the legal term "reasonable accommodation". If either the employee or the employer become "unreasonable" then the courts sort it out. |
| rolycat:
--- Quote from: con-f-use on June 04, 2015, 05:07:52 pm ---I woudn't want a compromise in safety standards for any religion. The same laws and regulations have to apply to everyone. --- End quote --- It's not unusual for religions to mandate stupid behaviour on the part of their devotees, and governments wishing to appear 'sensitive' can and do make exemptions for them. For example, in the UK Sikhs wearing turbans are exempted from using hard hats at construction sites, and this will shortly be extended to all workplaces. |
| c4757p:
--- Quote from: con-f-use on June 04, 2015, 05:07:52 pm ---I woudn't want a compromise in safety standards for any religion. The same laws and regulations have to apply to everyone. --- End quote --- But that's my faith! You can't make me take safety precautions, my god's going to roast me in hell for eternity if I do that!! :scared: |
| retrolefty:
--- Quote from: retrolefty on June 04, 2015, 05:46:13 pm --- --- Quote from: rolycat on June 04, 2015, 05:33:51 pm --- --- Quote from: con-f-use on June 04, 2015, 05:07:52 pm ---I woudn't want a compromise in safety standards for any religion. The same laws and regulations have to apply to everyone. --- End quote --- It's not unusual for religions to mandate stupid behaviour on the part of their devotees, and governments wishing to appear 'sensitive' can and do make exemptions for them. For example, in the UK Sikhs wearing turbans are exempted from using hard hats at construction sites, and this will shortly be extended to all workplaces. --- End quote --- That is absolutely criminal. I worked at a oil refinery for almost 30 years and if I had not been required to wear a hard hat in the plants at all times I might have not made it to retirement. Safety, including mandatory personal protection equipment should never have to pass a 'sensitivity' test. We also had a no beard policy as it could fail to allow for a good fit on emergency air pack masks. Some grumbled about it but it was make your choice, follow the safety polcies or go work somewhere else. --- End quote --- |
| rolycat:
--- Quote from: retrolefty on June 04, 2015, 05:48:08 pm --- --- Quote from: rolycat on June 04, 2015, 05:33:51 pm --- --- Quote from: con-f-use on June 04, 2015, 05:07:52 pm ---I woudn't want a compromise in safety standards for any religion. The same laws and regulations have to apply to everyone. --- End quote --- It's not unusual for religions to mandate stupid behaviour on the part of their devotees, and governments wishing to appear 'sensitive' can and do make exemptions for them. For example, in the UK Sikhs wearing turbans are exempted from using hard hats at construction sites, and this will shortly be extended to all workplaces. --- End quote --- That is absolutely criminal. I worked at a oil refinery for almost 30 years and if I had not been required to wear a hard hat in the plants at all times I might have not made it to retirement. Safety, including mandatory personal protection equipment should never have to pass a 'sensitivity' test. We also had a no beard policy as it could fail to allow for a good fit on emergency air pack masks. Some grumbled about it but it was make your choice, follow the safety polcies or go work somewhere else. --- End quote --- Ah, but it's explicitly not criminal in the UK (and some other countries) - it's enshrined in law: employers and other individuals are liable "only to the extent that injury, loss or damage would have been sustained by the Sikh even if he had been wearing a hard hat". Proving that extent in court might be tricky, and it's interesting to note that a major PPE manufacturer had a Sikh wrap a typical load of hair (a lot) up in a turban and tested it in their facility. Blunt object trauma was actually less for the turbaned 'head' than with a standard EN397 hard hat. Sharp objects were another matter... |
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