Ladyada interview with Paul Horowitz - The Art of Electronics

[all_repair]

If Mr Horowitz didn't mind, I couldn't of her style.  I could see she is trying her best.  It would be good if she was not wearing the peircing, it is painfully to watch people wearing peircing.  I am encouraging my daughter into electronics but I do not want to see peircing as a trend for female (or male too) in this industry.

[c4757p]

If Mr Horowitz didn't mind, I couldn't of her style.  I could see she is trying her best.  It would be good if she was not wearing the peircing, it is painfully to watch people wearing peircing.  I am encouraging my daughter into electronics but I do not want to see peircing as a trend for female (or male too) in this industry.

That of all things bothers you about her? Come on...

[timb]

If Mr Horowitz didn't mind, I couldn't of her style.  I could see she is trying her best.  It would be good if she was not wearing the peircing, it is painfully to watch people wearing peircing.  I am encouraging my daughter into electronics but I do not want to see peircing as a trend for female (or male too) in this industry.

Just encourage your daughter to get her nipples or Deloris {Am I dating myself with a Seinfeld reference?} pierced. That way it won't distract you; only her boyfriend(s) will see it!

Problem solved.


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[SArepairman]

i did not watch the video but i did read the thread and yall need to go outside for a little while and look at some birds

[miguelvp]

i did not watch the video but i did read the thread and yall need to go outside for a little while and look at some birds

I would if you were from England.

[george graves]

I wonder what peoples' opinions would be like if a man did the interview, using the exact same lines and delivery.

Dave did an interview recently (amp hour - I want to say it was the Freaklabs show)that he would interject/interrupt "Ah.. Oh yea right..It's just like I did back in the day with my project.....let me interrupt your story...I did XYZ"  (personally I was thinking "shut up and let them talk")   And no one called him on it.  But that's fine.  He was being a good host - and relating - and interjecting his experiences. Right on.  It the same thing.

Everyone commenting on this seems to be an expert on interviewing people.  Or being on camera in general.  Put yourself out there first, then you can comment.

IMHO -  The vitriol in this thread is outstanding.  And why this forum will always have a dark cloud over it.

[retrolefty]

IMHO -  The vitriol in this thread is outstanding.  And why this forum will always have a dark cloud over it.

 That part of this thread is just a simple 'free speech Vs political correct speech' issue that is nothing new around here and it won't make that dark cloud amount to anything significant. 

[george graves]

Yea...but still.  And also...

[c4757p]

I wonder what peoples' opinions would be like if a man did the interview, using the exact same lines and delivery.

Dave did an interview recently (amp hour - I want to say it was the Freaklabs show)that he would interject/interrupt "Ah.. Oh yea right..It's just like I did back in the day with my project.....let me interrupt your story...I did XYZ"  (personally I was thinking "shut up and let them talk")   And no one called him on it.  But that's fine.  He was being a good host - and relating - and interjecting his experiences. Right on.  It the same thing.

Don't know about everyone else, but Dave's style annoys me too - it's just not usually irritating to the point of commenting on because the things he interjects with aren't usually so damn dumb! Once in a while they are, though, at least relative to the interviewee - the one with Shahriar had me practically shouting at him...

[EEVblog]

Dave did an interview recently

No I didn't, we don't do "interviews" on the Amp Hour we invite guests on to "join the show" and shoot the breeze and have some fun dicussing whatever comes up.

[c4757p]

Call it what you want, but it's still what just about anyone else would call an interview

[EEVblog]

Call it what you want, but it's still what just about anyone else would call an interview

People can think whatever they like, doesn't change the fact that the actual hosts of the show don't think it's an interview, don't approach it as such, don't prepare for it as such, and don't tell the guests that's what it's going to be. We ask guests "would you like to join us on the show".

[EEVblog]

Dave does a much better job of interviewing people.  For example, I thought the series on microphones with Doug Ford was great.
And the factory tour with the SMD assembly plant, etc.

Funny, I copped a lot of flack for the SMD tour, more so than usual, all of it of the "shut up and let the guy talk" variety 

[zapta]

Dave did an interview recently

No I didn't, we don't do "interviews" on the Amp Hour we invite guests on to "join the show" and shoot the breeze and have some fun dicussing whatever comes up.

In the case of Chuck Peddle (AH 241) he came to tell his story, not for an open discussion, and he had a lot to tell. The interruptions break the flow of the story. Not as extreme as the Horowitz case but unnecessary nevertheless. Chris is more considerate in this respect.


http://www.theamphour.com/241-an-interview-with-chuck-peddle-charismatic-chipmaking-coryphaeus/

[rx8pilot]

Funny, I copped a lot of flack for the SMD tour, more so than usual, all of it of the "shut up and let the guy talk" variety 

If it were easy, everyone would be doing it.

[Sigmoid]

That part of this thread is just a simple 'free speech Vs political correct speech' issue that is nothing new around here and it won't make that dark cloud amount to anything significant. 

Well, no. It's not about being politically correct. It's about not being a troll.

"In Internet slang, a troll (/?tro?l/, /?tr?l/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion." (from Wikipedia)

Yes, I do find Limor's style slightly grating, but not to the point of ruining the interview. There's nothing wrong with pointing that out. However, complaining about the fashion sense of the interviewer is not "free speech", it is trolling. It's inflammatory, it's extraneous, and it's most definitely off-topic.

[zapta]

However, complaining about the fashion sense of the interviewer is not "free speech", it is trolling. It's inflammatory, it's extraneous, and it's most definitely off-topic.

Would you react the same to a " I liked the color of her hair? "

[Sigmoid]

Would you react the same to a " I liked the color of her hair? "

Let me answer with a poetic question. What on Earth does that have to do with the interview?!

[c4757p]

However, complaining about the fashion sense of the interviewer is not "free speech", it is trolling. It's inflammatory, it's extraneous, and it's most definitely off-topic.

Would you react the same to a " I liked the color of her hair? "

Depends. A compliment can be different, because there's no air of criticism or implication that you think that's important, you're just noticing it. When you say you don't like it, it comes across like you feel owed a more 'professional' look, whether or not that's what you actually intended.

And for what it's worth, compliments can come across that way too - an air of "congratulations on living up to my appearance standards". Hard to tell without more context than just that one sentence, you very well might get people who think you meant it that way.

[rx8pilot]

I like to see the convergence of art and science. That is what I take away from her bold look.

[zapta]

Depends. A compliment can be different, because there's no air of criticism or implication that you think that's important, you're just noticing it. When you say you don't like it, it comes across like you feel owed a more 'professional' look, whether or not that's what you actually intended.

Like and don't like are symmetrical opinions. If one is allowed so should the other.

[c4757p]

It's not about what you're allowed to do, it's about coming across like a prick or not. Yes, you're free to state both opinions. No, both don't give people an equal impression of you.

[EEVblog]

In the case of Chuck Peddle (AH 241) he came to tell his story, not for an open discussion

That's what you wanted, and hence I think your view of it is skewed because of that.
We invited him be a guest on the "free-for-all" show just like we invite everyone else. Sure we wanted to hear his stories, but it's not like it was ever intended to be a formal interview about his life story.
We actually tell every guess right before hitting record that it's a "free-for-all", like what you'd get if you were sitting in the pub chatting to the person, that's how we approach the show. We never see ourselves as interviewers.

The interruptions break the flow of the story. Not as extreme as the Horowitz case but unnecessary nevertheless. Chris is more considerate in this respect.

Wrong. Chris (I believe publicly) publicly said before the show that he'd probably sit back on this one because he has little knowledge of (or really interest in) old computers. It was a topic that I had much more personal interest in and knowledge of.
You'll see this same pattern time and time again where either of us will break in more depending upon our enthusiasm or curiosity for whatever is being said at particular time.
In many shows Chris has done a lot more interrupting than I have.
But I suspect it will be impossible to convince you of this point of view.
I'm not saying I don't interrupt (a lot?), but that's my style, and it's a deliberate nature of the show.

[EEVblog]

However, complaining about the fashion sense of the interviewer is not "free speech", it is trolling. It's inflammatory, it's extraneous, and it's most definitely off-topic.

Would you react the same to a " I liked the color of her hair? "

I liked her Transistor Man T-Shirt!

[zapta]

That's what you wanted, and hence I think your view of it is skewed because of that.

OK.