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Title: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: PartialDischarge on May 14, 2016, 05:38:49 pm
Hi,

In my company I've come across a huge pile of nice heatsinks that will probably end up in the trash :scared:. So I've started thinking about any possible uses for them, be it
electronics related (a massive LED heatsink...) or even artistic uses (a futuristic table top...).
Selling them is not easy since weight makes shipping pricey

What would you do with those ? any creative ideas?

Cheers!



Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: Augustus on May 14, 2016, 05:46:36 pm
Selling them is not easy since weight makes shipping pricey

Take them to hamfests, these make nice heatsinks for homemade transistor rf power amplifiers...  :-+
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: nctnico on May 14, 2016, 05:50:35 pm
I really wouldn't mind buying a couple of those if the price is right... I have a few projects in mind for which I really could use such heatsinks.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: mav_iqdirect on May 14, 2016, 05:53:02 pm
Cool stuff :-+
Formerly I saw up similar ones to smaller pieces to use in my hobby projects.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: Johnny10 on May 14, 2016, 06:11:34 pm
I would put 200 watt 8 ohm resistors on them and use for audio Load.

Very Cool!

Pick them all up.
Lots of uses.
Too bad you are so far away...
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: German_EE on May 14, 2016, 06:25:43 pm
DC dummy load, a REALLY BIG DC dummy load.

Selling them to radio hams is a better idea though.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: iampoor on May 14, 2016, 07:51:36 pm
Dummy load all the way!

I wish I could find a nice pile of heatsinks like that!
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: stmdude on May 14, 2016, 07:55:41 pm
Mount _lots_ of power-LEDs on them to make a spotlight bright enough to light up the moon. :)
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: M4trix on May 14, 2016, 08:35:00 pm
Mastertech, the question is, what is your field of interest ? Personally, I would build powerful dummy loads for testing high power audio amplifiers and sell them.  :)
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: T3sl4co1l on May 14, 2016, 08:39:18 pm
Big power supplies, like motor drives / VFDs, industrial heating, etc.

Tim
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: AF6LJ on May 14, 2016, 08:42:19 pm
Great heaatsinks for 8560 based power amplifier.
Just have to get the beryllium oxide thermal link welded to them.
Here is an 8560 datasheet. [url]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiuuN-sttrMAhVJ02MKHQq8B0kQFggjMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tubecollectors.org%2Feimac%2Farchives%2F8560as.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFh5D19RlApJz9X5Ki8-eUYGH8jIA&sig2=XUsvmZ5_VMXvZR5VFWNRBg&bvm=bv.122129774,d.cGc]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiuuN-sttrMAhVJ02MKHQq8B0kQFggjMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tubecollectors.org%2Feimac%2Farchives%2F8560as.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFh5D19RlApJz9X5Ki8-eUYGH8jIA&sig2=XUsvmZ5_VMXvZR5VFWNRBg&bvm=bv.122129774,d.cGc] [url]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiuuN-sttrMAhVJ02MKHQq8B0kQFggjMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tubecollectors.org%2Feimac%2Farchives%2F8560as.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFh5D19RlApJz9X5Ki8-eUYGH8jIA&sig2=XUsvmZ5_VMXvZR5VFWNRBg&bvm=bv.122129774,d.cGc (http://[url=https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiuuN-sttrMAhVJ02MKHQq8B0kQFggjMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tubecollectors.org%2Feimac%2Farchives%2F8560as.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFh5D19RlApJz9X5Ki8-eUYGH8jIA&sig2=XUsvmZ5_VMXvZR5VFWNRBg&bvm=bv.122129774,d.cGc)[/url]

I only mention this because I have a half dozen of these tubes.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: 10101 on May 14, 2016, 08:44:24 pm
1000A electronic load just for the lols xD
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: wkb on May 14, 2016, 09:00:56 pm
HAM PAs & dummy loads! Not something I would 'thrash' ever  :palm:
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: XOIIO on May 14, 2016, 09:23:44 pm
Holy crap, I've got some pretty long ones, but those are probably way more metal, and will definitely dissipate heat better. I'll take some pics of them later.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: Psi on May 14, 2016, 10:12:59 pm
Time to buy 20x  100W LEDs from aliexpress :D
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: AF6LJ on May 14, 2016, 11:05:52 pm
Time to buy 20x  100W LEDs from aliexpress :D
Just what everyone needs a ceiling light that is brighter than the Sun.  :-+
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: M4trix on May 14, 2016, 11:18:22 pm
Btw, how much does one heat sink weigh ? Since Spain is not far from here, I'm curious how much would shipping cost from Spain to Croatia.  ;D
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: TerraHertz on May 14, 2016, 11:26:40 pm
In my company I've come across a huge pile of nice heatsinks that will probably end up in the trash :scared:.

Wow. If you can arrange to take them, rather than the company trashing them, then you definitely should take them all.
Because despite the shipping cost I think they would sell well via the usual channels.
Also, think recycling metal value. If the company doesn't want to bother taking them to recycling, why don't you?

Another use: small optical table for DIY laser projectors and such. It looks like the back surface is machined flat, already has lots of tapped holes. and it's also going to be a good heatsink oddly enough.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: sarepairman2 on May 15, 2016, 12:10:16 am
you can also smelt them or just sell them for cash on ebay or just scrap them. Kind of a waste to throw out aluminum metal... its recyclable. Not the mot pricey metal but if you got alot of it you can buy yourself a few sandwiches.

There are a few cool youtube videos with people making ridiclous LED flashlights too..

I would save one or two and scrap/sell the rest unless you got free space or a serious liking of power electronics. You can probobly finance your project with that sale. Maybe sell them on the forum lol
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: Ampera on May 15, 2016, 12:36:30 am
Here are thirty really stupid uses for them

1. Grating cheese

2. Use as a pet deterrent to keep cats and other pets off surfaces (Cats hate those kinds of surfaces)

3. Make it into a frying pan with REALLY good heat transfer

4. If you have enough of them, mount them on you wall, heck they might make good echo canceling surfaces

5. Use it for a really big space heater

6. Use it for a really big pool warmer

7. Cut them up and save them for DIY projects (Or just plop a bunch off at a makerspace, they will take it)

8. Stare at them

9. Use them a chair for people who you really don't like to sit on.

10. Use it to separate cheese curd from whey.

11. Glue it to a stick and use it as a meat tenderizer.

12. Use it as catapult ammo

13. Put a trapdoor in your front porch with these at the bottom so you can mildly irritate and entrap troublesome door to door sales people.

14. Spend way too much money and send it to the EEVBlog in one massive package just so Dave can wonder why you wasted money and time to send them over

15. Get a nice torch and forge them into metal tools

16. Make a footrest

17. Cast them into slightly larger heatsinks

18. Use them to shave your pubic regions

19. If you have a LOT of them put brick to mortar and make a heatsink wall/house.

20. Use them for computers

21. Make a bed out of them

22. Walk up to people in the supermarket and put one into their carts.

23. Use it to crush fruit and veg.

24. Keep boiling until soft, then eat them.

25. Powderize them and make sparklers.

26. Absolutely nothing

27. Take a potato and push it through the waves to make fries/chips

28. Use it to decorate your car

29. Hide them under the floorboards to really confuse someone whenever it is found

30. Make the ultimate water cooling system for a computer.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: M4trix on May 15, 2016, 12:42:47 am
Time to buy 20x  100W LEDs from aliexpress :D
Just what everyone needs a ceiling light that is brighter than the Sun.  :-+

(http://i.imgur.com/dGDjwSL.gif)
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: Brumby on May 15, 2016, 02:22:54 am
Just how many of these are there?

There is a lot of metal there - they are huge... I love them!!

You could cut them down for a number of smaller ones ... I would hate to see any scrapped.  If I couldn't sell them, I would rather give them away to people who could use them, rather than have them melted down.


I'd hate to have paid the bill for their original purchase......
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: Smokey on May 15, 2016, 02:54:11 am
You guys are way low-balling the dissipation capabilities of those heatsinks.  Those are around 1500W heatsinks with proper airflow.  Think Bigger!
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: Brumby on May 15, 2016, 03:01:07 am
Three Mile Island...?  Fukushima.....?  Chernobyl........?
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: bitseeker on May 15, 2016, 03:06:55 am
Passively cooled, multi-channel, high-current, linear power supply and electronic load. One heatsink per channel. :-+

One should be pretty good for passively cooling a CPU and GPU, too.

Fans? We don't need no stinkin' fans!
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: radar_macgyver on May 15, 2016, 03:47:50 am
Sandwich some peltier elements between two, add some fans and you have a solid-state air conditioner. Suitable for cooling enclosures and such. Enough of them would act as a room cooler, but won't be very efficient. Run in reverse, they'd be good for heat pumps.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: T3sl4co1l on May 15, 2016, 08:28:38 am
Sandwich some peltier elements between two, add some fans and you have a solid-state air conditioner. Suitable for cooling enclosures and such. Enough of them would act as a room cooler, but won't be very efficient. Run in reverse, they'd be good for heat pumps.

World's lowest SEER! :-DD

Tim
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: XOIIO on May 15, 2016, 10:13:31 am
Yeah, mine aren't nearly as impressive.

(http://i.imgur.com/9OSU5Hs.jpg)
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: continuo on May 15, 2016, 01:31:18 pm
Wow... What would be a reasonable selling price for one of these huge heatsinks? 30...50€? And how many of them do they stock there? Grab them... Grab all of them...  :scared:
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: Jeroen3 on May 15, 2016, 02:55:32 pm
€50? You are kidding?
These go around for more than €100. They are high performance cooling aggregates. (http://www.fischerelektronik.de/web_fischer/en_GB/heatsinks/D01/High-performance%20heatsinks/search.xhtml)
You have to ask the price, that's how expensive they are. You don't just scrap those, you return or resell then.
Looking at how much you have over there, you are taking about 5 digit prices. And multiple digit shipping...

Looks like you've scrapped the project to build your own VFD or super rectifier.
There is one price lowering factor... they are pre-drilled.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: apis on May 15, 2016, 03:00:32 pm
Yeah, sell them if you don't need them! :o
Or give them to people who do, they will be grateful!
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: Nuno_pt on May 15, 2016, 03:11:51 pm
I would need 3 or 4 if the price is right, since Spain is on the corner.

I'm thinking 144, 432 and 1296 RF amplifiers, and 1 HF 5kW dummy load.  :-DD
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: radar_macgyver on May 15, 2016, 03:35:20 pm
World's lowest SEER! :-DD

SEER is not everything. We use these guys' (http://www.thermoelectric.com/) products at work to good effect. Perfect for enclosures where heat loads are variable, and you can't get variable capacity compressors small enough to avoid short-cycling. Also good for enclosures that operate off-vertical.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: PartialDischarge on May 15, 2016, 06:13:03 pm
Some good ideas out there... the DC load definitively takes the lead! and actually there are also a lot of igbt modules here (>1000V >1000A  >:D ) that fit those heatsinks and
could serve that purpose...

And yes, those are highly efficient heatsinks given the proper airflow. There are actually 2 sizes in the pictures, the bigger one weights like 13kg if I remember well !!!...
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: sarepairman2 on May 15, 2016, 06:23:50 pm
thermoelectrics are great when you need them.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: German_EE on May 15, 2016, 07:12:54 pm
Please could someone explain what SEER is? I can find plenty of information at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seer but none of it is to do with electronics.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: T3sl4co1l on May 15, 2016, 08:39:41 pm
Please could someone explain what SEER is? I can find plenty of information at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seer but none of it is to do with electronics.

I was referring to the "room cooler" part.  That definition is,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_energy_efficiency_ratio

TECs are okay when you need the teeniest amount of heat flow to get a regulated temperature difference (usually cooler, and sometimes stacked to achieve much lower temperatures... at the cost of exponential power consumption..!).  I can't imagine a case where you'd actually want to put in a room-sized one. :P

Ed: or more to the point... that you'd want to put in, and pay for the installation and operating costs of... :-DD

Tim
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: CatalinaWOW on May 15, 2016, 11:44:53 pm
Active loads for battery characterization.  Big batteries like those used in giant scale RC airplane flight or electric drag racing and so on.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: iXod on May 16, 2016, 04:48:35 am
Make these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we4DU6CZKfU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we4DU6CZKfU)

1800 watts (162,000 lumens).

Cheers.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: TerraHertz on May 16, 2016, 05:12:42 am
Some good ideas out there... the DC load definitively takes the lead! and actually there are also a lot of igbt modules here (>1000V >1000A  >:D ) that fit those heatsinks and
could serve that purpose...

And yes, those are highly efficient heatsinks given the proper airflow. There are actually 2 sizes in the pictures, the bigger one weights like 13kg if I remember well !!!...

Wait, you have huge pre-drilled heatsinks AND giant igbts that fit them? Are the igbt's 'surplus to requirements' too?
OK, seriously, can you find some specs for the heatinks and igbts? Either post or PM them, or even URLs for them?
I'd definitely be interested in buying some sets if cheap. Though I'd probably have to save up for the shipping.
For some experiments related to a power independence project idea.

Though, I suspect ">1000A IGBTs" are probably overkill. By more than an order of magnitude.
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: DimitriP on May 16, 2016, 05:39:27 am
Hmmmm .....


(https://passlabs.com/images/uploads/Product_images/115/xs_color__large.jpg)
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: bitseeker on May 16, 2016, 06:15:10 am
Sweet!

Doubles as a drink warmer. ;D
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: Raj on May 16, 2016, 09:03:54 am
if you can't decide what to do with them... melt them and cast them into something useful
or cut them for use in smaller devices
Title: Re: LARGE Heatsinks, What would you do with them??
Post by: ZeTeX on May 16, 2016, 12:44:22 pm
Here are thirty really stupid uses for them

1. Grating cheese

2. Use as a pet deterrent to keep cats and other pets off surfaces (Cats hate those kinds of surfaces)

3. Make it into a frying pan with REALLY good heat transfer

4. If you have enough of them, mount them on you wall, heck they might make good echo canceling surfaces

5. Use it for a really big space heater

6. Use it for a really big pool warmer

7. Cut them up and save them for DIY projects (Or just plop a bunch off at a makerspace, they will take it)

8. Stare at them

9. Use them a chair for people who you really don't like to sit on.

10. Use it to separate cheese curd from whey.

11. Glue it to a stick and use it as a meat tenderizer.

12. Use it as catapult ammo

13. Put a trapdoor in your front porch with these at the bottom so you can mildly irritate and entrap troublesome door to door sales people.

14. Spend way too much money and send it to the EEVBlog in one massive package just so Dave can wonder why you wasted money and time to send them over

15. Get a nice torch and forge them into metal tools

16. Make a footrest

17. Cast them into slightly larger heatsinks

18. Use them to shave your pubic regions

19. If you have a LOT of them put brick to mortar and make a heatsink wall/house.

20. Use them for computers

21. Make a bed out of them

22. Walk up to people in the supermarket and put one into their carts.

23. Use it to crush fruit and veg.

24. Keep boiling until soft, then eat them.

25. Powderize them and make sparklers.

26. Absolutely nothing

27. Take a potato and push it through the waves to make fries/chips

28. Use it to decorate your car

29. Hide them under the floorboards to really confuse someone whenever it is found

30. Make the ultimate water cooling system for a computer.
oh my
"24. Keep boiling until soft, then eat them."
only in russia.