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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2022, 09:21:52 pm »
Boris' surname is "Badenov", which parody of Boris Godunov (historical Tsar and later opera) seriously annoyed the Soviet government.
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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2022, 09:51:00 pm »
Btw, this 1st article is written in 2019, and we all know Russia and China military have been working together intensively lately like joint naval or army exercises, pretty sure in 2022 now its different from 2019 where the article was written.

Russian conventional military forces are by large a Potemkin Village, partially conscript-based, mostly poorly trained unmotivated force armed with 50-years old equipment. Most of its alleged strength is just a PR. Of course there are exceptions (nuke forces, for instance). But the forces that are invading Ukraine are just as described in the 1st sentence.

Throwing name does not make any impression. Mongolian Armed Forces conducting join exercises with US Armed Forces does not tell anything about Mongolian military strength.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village
 

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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2022, 11:12:22 pm »
Pretty sure this is POLITICS, and would be closed, if the admin want to be consistent
 

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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2022, 11:22:13 pm »
Pretty sure this is POLITICS, and would be closed, if the admin want to be consistent

Well fortunately they don't have to be consistent, and moreover even if they did have to be, they can tell the difference between politics for the sake of arguing politics and discussing the technological realities behind a story in the news that just happens to have a political background.
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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2022, 02:55:31 am »
Just because I'm curious, how useful is civil [L series] GPS in the conflict area/ surrounding area? To keep it civil, I'll also ask How useful is Glonass and Galileo?

Before anyone gets unpleasant,  remember Glonass shares the overlapping frequency band with GPS ! Jam one and you can mess up both.

Anybody heard of any jamming, or worse yet, meaconing?

Not exactly being scored/reported  on the USCG Navcen website as I would expect. Note, unless nationalized by the military in time of declared  war, Navcen is pretty much civilian. It is the communication interface for worldwide civilians to many navigation systems.

Did our Air Force / Space  Force turn on GPS  Selective Availability again? For those who did not live during a certain age, SA adds a position dither to the civilian GPS feed.

US president #42 ordered SA turned off during his cycle in the White House. So many of you have probably never experienced a 300 meter random jiggle on your hiking sprees.


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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2022, 04:17:47 am »
Did our Air Force / Space  Force turn on GPS  Selective Availability again? For those who did not live during a certain age, SA adds a position dither to the civilian GPS feed.
Get ready for some doublespeak, SA is off and will never be turned on (not even implemented on recent GPS satellites?).....    but:

Additionally, we have demonstrated the capability to selectively deny GPS signals on a regional basis when our national security is threatened.  This regional approach to denying navigation services is consistent with the 1996 plan to discontinue the degradation of civil and commercial GPS service globally through the SA technique.
The U.S. Government also maintains the capability to prevent hostile use of GPS and its augmentations while retaining a military advantage in a theater of operations without disrupting or degrading civilian uses outside the theater of operations.
Selective Availability (a named specific technical feature) will not be used but GPS (un)Availability in Selective regions may still be applied.
 

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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2022, 07:40:35 am »
Btw, this 1st article is written in 2019, and we all know Russia and China military have been working together intensively lately like joint naval or army exercises, pretty sure in 2022 now its different from 2019 where the article was written.

Russian conventional military forces are by large a Potemkin Village, partially conscript-based, mostly poorly trained unmotivated force armed with 50-years old equipment. Most of its alleged strength is just a PR. Of course there are exceptions (nuke forces, for instance). But the forces that are invading Ukraine are just as described in the 1st sentence.

Throwing name does not make any impression. Mongolian Armed Forces conducting join exercises with US Armed Forces does not tell anything about Mongolian military strength.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village

I guess the Taliban like those farmers wearing flip-flop with half century AK-47 beg to differ.  :-DD

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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2022, 08:03:14 am »
On February 18th i had to travel by car for about eight hours, for a business visit. One hour before arrival i noticed that the GPS had ony 3 or 4 satellites, fewer than usual and half an hour before arrival i lost GPS navigation. That wasn't funny. On the way back, i mean after some hours, everything was normal again. Wondering what was the reason, after thinking about a russian satellite destruction test and about GPS reserve satellites coming online, i agreed to myself that the observation was caused by bad weather or by the age of the GPS receiver. All speculation.

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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2022, 10:23:34 am »
if push comes to shove the West is not immune to getting satellites hacked ether. eye for an eye.
 can the EU live without Russian gas to keep warm ?. or would they prefer the instant thermonuclear option.  :o
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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2022, 10:32:39 am »

 can the EU live without Russian gas to keep warm ?. or would they prefer the instant thermonuclear option.  :o
Does that come under FREE energy 🤔
Or global warming?
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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2022, 04:43:54 pm »
you can have your own oil well with geothermal energy
 

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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2022, 05:02:18 pm »
you can have your own oil well with geothermal energy
I wish 🤞 
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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2022, 05:08:17 pm »
Did our Air Force / Space  Force turn on GPS  Selective Availability again? For those who did not live during a certain age, SA adds a position dither to the civilian GPS feed.

No... but the various militaries aligned with NATO have access to devices known as DAGRs* which operate with encrypted GPS streams (SAASM)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Advanced_GPS_Receiver

*other military GNSS devices are available, please contact your nearest dealer for assistance.
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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2022, 05:21:35 pm »
you can have your own oil well with geothermal energy
I wish 🤞

I don't think its that expensive, similar to a solar setup
 

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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2022, 07:30:33 pm »
you can have your own oil well with geothermal energy
I wish 🤞

I don't think its that expensive, similar to a solar setup

Depends where you are. If you're in Iceland it's a 20-100m borehole and you're laughing, if you're in the middle of England it's a 4000-5000m borehole and your wallet will explode and never be the same again.
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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2022, 08:55:19 pm »
you can have your own oil well with geothermal energy
I wish 🤞

I don't think its that expensive, similar to a solar setup   :-DD

Depends where you are. If you're in Iceland it's a 20-100m borehole and you're laughing, if you're in the middle of England it's a 4000-5000m borehole and your wallet will explode and never be the same again.
That's would be good for a Game of conkers
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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2022, 09:04:44 pm »
It seems like a good idea to try to reduce oil use by investing in alternative technologies, spring time is a good time to do some work on things like home insulation, heat pumps, geothermal exchangers, solar electricity and solar water heating.
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Re: Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2022, 04:10:25 pm »
Ok for the record I have long known about the restricted signals from GPS. Hence I said "L' code.

Double speak is a good term for the.madness.

Thanks to those who replied.

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