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| edy:
Some of these issues should be huge concerns for anyone wanting to actively participate in the LBRY network. It's easy to just have them copy over all your YouTube content and then take a backseat approach, not watch anything or removing all files from your computer (there is a setting which disables all downloads to local storage). Of course, this weakens the network and if everyone did that, LBRY would no longer function. This may also hamper efforts to earn LBC rewards. If you have a big audience, popular videos and lots of subscribers maybe you can eke out a few LBC's passively this way. But if you are just starting out, you will need to be actively engaged in LBRY, viewing lots of videos, grabbing rewards daily and spending a lot of energy and time on it. The current value of LBC is $0.018266 US. We haven't yet heard from Dave (although he promised in his recent mailbag) that he would compare YouTube and LBRY and perhaps he may report on the revenue potentials and whether he has observed some of the same issues we are talking about in this thread. |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on February 19, 2020, 07:51:56 am ---If the police take a look at your computer, what would they find? How would you explain what they found? If you refuse to hand over encryption keys (or they think you are refusing), go to jail. And apart from that, if you are trying to build a brand, you really really don't want it polluted by association. Large companies get very irritated when legal but inappropriate adverts are shown alongside their stuff. --- End quote --- Pollution by association and the resulting irritated companies are just institutional cowardice and virtue signalling. Instead of ignoring the idiots who can't tell their arse from their elbow the lowest common denominator is catered to, dragging the whole down to rock bottom. Everything becomes drab and safely PC for fear of someone brandishing their cultivated outrage as a weapon. |
| edy:
So with BitTorrent you can usually see the number of seeds/peers/availability and other parameters of the files. With LBRY it appears that once you start viewing a file, you download it *IN FULL* and from start to finish (not in pieces). So I am assuming that UNLIKE BitTorrent, LBRY treats a file as a single piece (or at least as a bunch of sequentially-prioritized pieces) that will be completely downloaded eventually by the viewer (although you can start watching partial files when they are mp4 streams). That seems to suggest that "availability" will have to be at the very least 1.0 for any file that you can actually start to stream... at least one person on the net is letting you download it from them (how could they possibly have an incomplete file, if so it would be unviewable in whole which kind of sucks if you are providing content that stops midway through). Anyone not online would not have the file available... but LBRY could keep track that the person "potentially" could still have it when they log back in. However, once they do, if it is no longer on their machine (they deleted it) then it would update both the "real" availability and "potential" number. Once you view the file, assuming it is now downloaded to your computer (which LBRY by default does unless you manually delete them or uncheck the option to help the network) then availability should increment by 1 theoretically (you and the original pool of seeders). Should I then assume that availability will always be WHOLE NUMBERS with LBRY depending on how many people are online and have kept the file on their machine? And do you always connect to a single machine to download the file or are "pieces" still being downloaded from a number of places, just prioritized with first pieces first in order to allow the quickest possible time to allow the stream to start? Is there any way to determine this in LBRY (like torrent apps often show) so you can see how many copies of the file are available online at one time? I wonder how redundant/robust LBRY is given that it depends on users to keep massive amounts of content on their machines. I am guessing LBRY itself probably has a bunch of servers holding content too, or 3rd parties who want to contribute to the network... I can't imagine this is relying on private users online only. I remember from the BitTorrent days how sporadic access to files was, and how connections were often slow or availability was below 1.0 until some user with the complete file logged on. And how many files would disappear from the network once everyone downloaded it and then archived it. The other reason there must be some main repository is because when you PUBLISH a video, if you then turn off your computer before anyone else watches the file, does that mean it has availability zero? It must be going somewhere? What about all my YouTube channel videos that I asked LBRY to pull out from there. Are they actually pulling the files over to their servers and keeping them until enough users watch and get copies, or are they just relying on YouTube hosting the files until people on the LBRY network start viewing and then pull them out that way? There must be large LBRY servers still out there doing most of the heavy work... I can't imagine individual users are supporting most of it. LBRY worked on a distribution protocol network system based on how Torrent works and applied it to real-time media streaming, an improvement on how regular Torrent works... since with regular Torrents you could have 90% of a file but missing a piece in the middle or beginning and your content will not play. With LBRY it seems they prioritize what pieces you download so you can view the file in real-time while still collecting more of the file, eventually catching up so the entire stream is all there. For example, if I start viewing a file and then "jump" to the end, my downloaded file is still continuing to download exactly the same while I am simultaneously viewing the end of the file. My computer is therefore downloading BOTH the file from beginning to end, and simultaneously the END of the file that I am actively watching... but that END content may be cached somewhere else and then spliced into the existing download when it gets up to that point. Any ideas on these stats with LBRY and how it works? |
| Halcyon:
Congrats on cracking 10,000 subscribers on LBRY Dave. https://lbry.social/lbrynomics/top-lbry-channels/ I love the ad-free viewing. Plus does the video quality look a little better or is it my imagination? :-+ |
| edy:
Yes congratulations Dave, that is superb! Will you be sharing with us what is in that "box surprise" they announced last week when you get it? Many people assumed an electronic wallet or something like a LBRY logo plaque to hang on the wall, or a special USB key, maybe a multi-tool? I am on there as well now with my @winegaming channel... up to 9 subscribers, woo hoo! And I think I have about 100 LBC at this point mostly from following EEvblog and others (Naomi Sexy Cyborg is on there) and daily rewards from viewing videos. So that's like $2? :-DD I'm having fun figuring out how this whole LBRY thing works and supporting others on the platform. https://lbry.tv/@winegaming:b |
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