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Let's SKIP the smartphone functions: Just send ADs all day !

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SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: RJSV on December 06, 2023, 02:08:06 am ---   How about just make the darn device spit out constant advertisements...no break, no volume controls; and DO THIS BEFORE EVERY PHONE CALL goes through.

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Dont be too impatient, this time is coming. ;D

As langwadt said, money has to be made one way or another. All this cheap (for mobile phones) or free (for YT) access to very expensive (to maintain) services can't be sustained without money flowing in.
And yes, when you think of the price of mobile phones (except maybe the high-end ones) and access to the services, it has become rather cheap.
And since we have become used to this, we dont want to go back to paying big bucks. So companies have to resort to tricks to make money. Sucks, but it's all our fault in a way. (Well, partly, because we didn't really choose the cheapo model to begin with. But we did take advantage of it.)

And that said, sure they're all going to milk the cow as much as possible once it's started. That's not per se devious, that's just entropy.

Meanwhile, you have ways of bypassing most of that (at least for now) as others have said, so use them and don't try to Don Quixote your way out of it, because I doubt it'll work out.

RJSV:
?   What's the Don Quiotay thing ; was that being brave, and dueling with a chair ? (Just curious).

Langwadt, thoughts posted in here are what I like, because it's arguing against my angle.  If it's a full cheat, to watch a video then, sure, I can be convinced that's unfair to a content creator, and would agree there should be a built-in remedy.
   I'm thinking more along the lines of, again, a system with formal grants and legal protection against indulging in another person's 'art', uninvited.  But that formal system then has a 'YIELD' clause, meaning an expiration after some number of years.
That way, you can view a movie, like Wizard of OZ, after the copyright expires, and that's considered a benefit, just to the general movie interested public (or students in acting careers etc).  Locking things up, into perpetuity, is almost the same as purely destroying such works, remembering that many artists build on what they've seen and learned, from other work.  A student, with 6 older classic movies to study, might not afford to pay to view some vintage Charlie Chaplin flick.

   Part of what caused this thread to start-up;
I had gotten to a web site that put notice, they wanted to 'track' me, and send notices, so the pop-up said:   "ALLOW". and.  "BLOCK"...
But then notice said that I must click on 'ALLOW',...to prove that I'm not a BOT !!!
Clever,...or, rather;   tacky trick, annoying

pqass:

--- Quote from: langwadt on December 06, 2023, 11:46:32 pm ---so you expect people to work for free and youtube to provide storage and bandwidth for free

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No I do not.  But my eyeballs aren't unconditionally free either.

I'm not averse to all advertising but if they make it too onerous or obnoxious I will take my eyeballs elsewhere; diminishing the value of their network. How's X[itter] doing these days?  Yet browsing old.reddit.com is quite acceptable.  If users had to pay for every click (ie. think), the world would be in a much better place; most of the YT content being pop shit, political barf, and inanity, plus a tiny fraction informative (🡰 no money here).

Advertisers won't be happy until we are restrained like in the Clockwork Orange scene.

Whether YT is a loss-leader or it's just Hollywood AccountingTM, the advertising I do see is apparently enough for them to keep the lights on. If Google ever locks-down YT, you know it's not long for the pile.

pqass:

--- Quote from: Dan123456 on December 06, 2023, 11:29:34 pm ---Shhhhhh!!! That is my secret sauce and haven’t mentioned it as don’t want YouTube to patch it  :-DD

Anyways, same thing works with clicking on a YouTube short then clicking back on mobile   ;D It doesn’t usually work for the first ad, but will usually skip the second one  ;D

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Also,
Firefox Settings -> Privacy & Security -> Permissions -> Autoplay, set Default for all websites to Block Audio and Video.
Then middle-click your YT link (so it opens in a new tab), switch to that tab and wait.  The ad won't play. Five seconds later, it'll switch to the next ad (if any), and then to your content.

NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: langwadt on December 06, 2023, 11:46:32 pm ---so you expect people to work for free and youtube to provide storage and bandwidth for free

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Creators mostly seem to be getting paid by other means nowadays and Bittorrent provides hosting for almost free, the creator just has to seed one copy and the viewers add to the bandwidth.

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