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level of Advertising is getting Ridiculous

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Zero999:
What's annoying is lots of the adverts are at random places, often in the middle of a word!

I question how effective advertising is, because I don't even know what most of it is for. Often it's some stupid music, with an easily forgettable logo, I don't even recognise and have no desire to look up.

engrguy42:

--- Quote from: Rerouter on June 27, 2020, 11:47:15 am ---engrguy42, In your context would you agree there is some threshold where there are so many ads you feel the service is not worth your time to watch? for many its once they have hit that threshold they likley went looking elsewhere, came back defeated and resorted to these solutions,

For me, I am still left puzzled where the money exactly goes when the app crams in 10 ads, where on a non ad blocked browser there are 0 set in the video by the creator.

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Gimme a break. "Not worth your time"?? Let's be honest here shall we? You're watching youtube instead of attending an important meeting? No, most people watch youtube for entertainment, and most videos are about 10 minutes long. You have time. Let's not act like we're so busy with important stuff, huh?

You should be clicking ads, hitting the LIKE button so often you get carpal tunnel, subscribing left and right, and doing everything you can think of to support the youtube creators who provide useful stuff. Instead, most people feel entitled to get exactly what they want for free, and if they don't get it they click off and watch videos of cats.

Rerouter:
I do not use an adblocker on youtube on my phone. so I fall outside of your issue as that is where most of my content consumption happens, on the website youtube is below my threshold, for the app it is above it, so I dropped using the app,

I'm also a patreon to my favorite creators, so your kind of white knighting at the wrong guy, I want to know where you would say "This is too much",

News websites and other websites I have abandoned because there was too many or aggressive ads, Gizmodo for an example with autoplay video and audio ads that chase you around the page, but a quick look seems like they have reduced the number some what since then.

My exact context is hours long scientific videos that I listen to while driving between sites, 5 minute unstoppable ads are way past the threshold that I am willing to deal with

SeanB:
Adverts in a video are for the non savvy, who are much more likely to click on the ad, and actually buy the product being advertised, than those who are able to use the ad blocker. If you are blocking the ads then the chances of you buying anything from an ad is so much lower than if you did not, so rather go after the low hanging fruit. As a plus most advertising is wrong, the art is in getting the amount that is wrong down low enough that you make a profit.

the Audible ad is likely a placeholder ad, low price to the provider, and played whenever there is not enough info available in the algorithm to decide on a better targeted ad, so roll through the low cost ads in the hope to get more analytical data.

At work not my computer, and I do enough random searches to confuse the ad algorithm anyway, plus never actually signed into my own account there ever, so the ads I get are random, or related to older searches.  Did install adblock there for Chrome, more to stop annoying audio and video ads, than anything else. If I want personal email I use my phone, and the DuckDuckGo browser addon, which, while it does sweet FA about Google tracking links from Gmail ( go figure, if the mobile Gmail mail client cannot do a ping, then it simply does a redirect through google to get the data) or the other trackers, at least i do not waste the data I pay for on annoying underlay ads, instead getting just a black screen in place of them, plus almost no ads or trackers otherwise on pages.

Only a couple of publishers who went online from print have the ability to serve all the ads they want to irrespective of adblocking and blacklists, because they did their homework, and host the ads themselves, and do all the analytics in house as well, so blocking the ads almost invariably ( unless you get very granular in the blacklist to block specific parts of sites) results in no content at all being delivered. However having the ad served from your own server means you control the type of ad served, and how much it can do as well. Much less chance of malware then, though it does mean you will have a proper web developer team, and vet every incoming advert as well.

jogri:

--- Quote from: engrguy42 on June 27, 2020, 11:42:21 am ---Are you people unaware that the way the universe works is that people receive services, and pay money in return? That's how it works. That's how you have a job. That's how you have money. That's why there are businesses like department stores and supermarkets. That's how it works. You RECEIVE a service, and in turn you PAY for the service.

Is there some belief that, for some insane reason, computer software and youtube videos are somehow different? They aren't. Advertisements are the way that you pay for the service. Ideally, you click on them so the poor youtube creator can make $0.00002 of revenue for his hard work.

Yeah, great, block the ads. And as is happening now, tech and other useful stuff on youtube will dwindle to nothing, and all we'll be left with is videos of cats playing piano that get 25 trillion views.  :palm:

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Exactly, we are talking about products. If i don't like them, i don't buy them. Same goes for websites/videos: If i don't like the obscene amounts of ads, i won't view the ads. If a Youtuber or a website only has a modest amounts of ads and i like their content i'll disable my adblocker for them.
It's their choice to plaster everything with annoying video ads if they want to maximize the profit per page visit, but that comes at the cost of annoying people-> not sustainable as almost all visitors will use adblockers or go somewhere else. Sure, switching to nonintrusive ads will lower the profit at first, but it is sustainable when frequent visitors don't mind having a few ads->they will switch off their adblockers, giving you a constant viewerbase that gets you money via ad views.

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