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level of Advertising is getting Ridiculous
madires:
Ads are the only working micropayment method in western countries. >:D
Bud:
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on June 27, 2020, 11:42:21 am ---Are you people unaware that the way the universe works is that people receive services, and pay money in return? That's how it works. That's how you have a job. That's how you have money. That's why there are businesses like department stores and supermarkets. That's how it works. You RECEIVE a service, and in turn you PAY for the service.
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Producing a service is not the case with the most of youtubers. Ask them why they make their videos and they all tell you "because i love making videos!". So if they love making videos so much then they should make their goddamn videos and not complain about not getting enough paid.
jogri:
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on June 27, 2020, 11:42:21 am ---Are you people unaware that the way the universe works is that people receive services, and pay money in return? That's how it works. That's how you have a job. That's how you have money. That's why there are businesses like department stores and supermarkets. That's how it works. You RECEIVE a service, and in turn you PAY for the service.
Is there some belief that, for some insane reason, computer software and youtube videos are somehow different? They aren't. Advertisements are the way that you pay for the service. Ideally, you click on them so the poor youtube creator can make $0.00002 of revenue for his hard work.
Yeah, great, block the ads. And as is happening now, tech and other useful stuff on youtube will dwindle to nothing, and all we'll be left with is videos of cats playing piano that get 25 trillion views. :palm:
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First the problem was that people aren't paying to watch tech videos, no the problem is that people are not interested in tech videos... How does this go together? The ad revenue doesn't even cover the cost of producing the video, so even if people don't use adblockers creators of tech videos don't get an additional budget for advertising their videos.
And how many tech YTer REGULARLY get 1M+ views on their videos? They would need over 3-4M views/month to go fulltime and probably 10M+ views to create interesting content. Science isn't cheap. And even if a tech channel manages to get a video on the front page of YT it doesn't get them a lot of attention as most people that click on the video are not going to become regular viewers. So what to do? Blame people that they don't find a particular type of video interesting? Well, i don't enjoy watching Make-Up tutorials, am i to blame if a Make-Up channel runs out of money?
Yes, in-depth tech videos are not for people who want shallow entertainment. If YT becomes a platform primarily for that sort of content tech videos aren't going to become more popular, but at that point you could also reverse your argument: Isn't it the fault of the video creators if they create content that a majority doesn't enjoy? If they want to make money they just have to produce more videos that cost less to produce and that are enjoyable by the broader mass of people... If people don't enjoy tech videos, then stop making tech videos if you want to make money.
engrguy42:
--- Quote from: Bud on June 27, 2020, 03:14:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on June 27, 2020, 11:42:21 am ---Are you people unaware that the way the universe works is that people receive services, and pay money in return? That's how it works. That's how you have a job. That's how you have money. That's why there are businesses like department stores and supermarkets. That's how it works. You RECEIVE a service, and in turn you PAY for the service.
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Producing a service is not the case with the most of youtubers. Ask them why they make their videos and they all tell you "because i love making videos!". So if they love making videos so much then they should make their goddamn videos and not complain about not getting enough paid.
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So tell me Bud...
Let's say you had a job that you enjoyed. No, let's say you LOVED doing that work. In that case is your employer not obligated to pay you? "Sorry Bud, but you really like this job, so you shouldn't complain if I don't pay you".
Yeah, that makes sense. Assume all youtube creators love making videos and therefore viewers like you aren't obligated to support them by hitting a freakin' "like" button or watching a freakin' 12 second advertising video. Got it.
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jogri:
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on June 27, 2020, 03:52:06 pm ---So tell me Bud...
Let's say you had a job that you enjoyed. No, let's say you LOVED doing that work. In that case is your employer not obligated to pay you? "Sorry Bud, but you really like this job, so you shouldn't complain if I don't pay you".
Yeah, that makes sense. Assume all youtube creators love making videos and therefore viewers like you aren't obligated to support them by hitting a freakin' "like" button or watching a freakin' 12 second video. Got it.
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Let's just assume that most people work because they want the "your work vs my money" trade and not because they particularly enjoy doing the same thing until they are 67... You have a job to get money, and you have a hobby that you enjoy, but don't get money for. If a youtuber decides to go fulltime in self-employment, they have to do something that gets them money. It's their job after all.
Do i have to financially support a company that produces a product no one wants? Well, they like what they're producing so you better pay for it. That's capitalism for you, people vote with their wallets. You produce something no one wants to buy? You don't get any money for it.
You have to have the right mentality: Do i enjoy making videos and don't mind getting a little bit of extra money? You should start a tech channel (those are the kind of channels that get viewers, they would play around with tech and film it anyway, getting money to do it is just a nice bonus).
Do i primarily want to make money and tech/science is one of my hobbys? You should probably look for another source of income...
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