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| John B:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on August 16, 2023, 05:44:58 am --- --- Quote from: John B on August 15, 2023, 10:17:42 pm ---The errors in their videos are more forgiveable than the monoblock fiasco. Linus can claim that it was sold in error (sorry, auctioned for charity), but the fact that it crossed anyone's mind to pawn off something like that rather than giving it back to the original owners speaks a lot to the mentality of the culture there. I think once they get big enough and get accustomed to large corporations throwing free stuff at them left right and centre, they lose perspective of the time and effort involved in other peoples products and labour. --- End quote --- I don't get the intense citicism here. They made a mistake, one time :-// --- End quote --- I can't speak to what it's like getting free stuff sent in, but does it really cross your mind after a review to sell items like that? |
| hans:
Its maybe not a single individuals fault. They have writers. They have accounting/business relationships, inventory, procurement, social media, and even a single individual (or is team already?) that organizes events such as LTX. It may be one half of the staff knows the value of that block, but someone else just YOLO'ed it. They did have a sign up describing what it is. So it is still a bit beyond me. From what I understand, review items can be shipped in OEM or retail packaging. Someones manufacturers ask for it back, but a bigger channel can ask to hold onto it as they may need it for future videos. If they may keep it and have retail packaging, it should have full retail value. In OEM packaging it obviously be a bit different. But that is to say they were confident it was a keeper. Seeing as it was a one of a kind prototype, it seems unlikely. I've scrolled through LTTs reddit today. Apparently all auction winners were emailed to reply what they had won, because they lost their winners sheet and they it need for "tax reports". BilletLabs then posted later that Linus had found the auction winner, and they should be able to get the block back. Billet refused, because they were already building a new one, and basically lost confidence in LTT and a private individual(which can't really be faulted) for getting it back in a timely manner and good shape. And someone made a live FloatPlane sub tracker. Apparently it was up as high as 42k before all this: https://grafana.elizabeth.codes/public-dashboards/10023c4c479744e191760225708c0124?orgId=1&from=now-24h&to=now :popcorn: |
| PlainName:
--- Quote from: John B on August 16, 2023, 06:30:49 am --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on August 16, 2023, 05:44:58 am --- --- Quote from: John B on August 15, 2023, 10:17:42 pm ---The errors in their videos are more forgiveable than the monoblock fiasco. Linus can claim that it was sold in error (sorry, auctioned for charity), but the fact that it crossed anyone's mind to pawn off something like that rather than giving it back to the original owners speaks a lot to the mentality of the culture there. I think once they get big enough and get accustomed to large corporations throwing free stuff at them left right and centre, they lose perspective of the time and effort involved in other peoples products and labour. --- End quote --- I don't get the intense citicism here. They made a mistake, one time :-// --- End quote --- I can't speak to what it's like getting free stuff sent in, but does it really cross your mind after a review to sell items like that? --- End quote --- AIUI, Billet contacted LTT half an hour after he said the heatsink had been sold (it was their prototype so irreplaceable and certainly not disposable at a profit). LTT ignored them for four days, and then 10 minutes after GN had blown it open Linus personally contacted them to say it was auctioned and they would sort out recompense for Billet. Doesn't sound like a mistake to me. Sounds more like a freebie sink and fuck the vendors. |
| Veteran68:
So, here's the damage control response. https://youtu.be/0cTpTMl8kFY I have to say, I was having a very good feeling from everyone in the video -- the new CEO, Yvonne, the new lab head, business development head, head writer, etc. Everyone was contrite, acknowledging their issues, and talking about changes to make it better, starting with an immediate pause on producing content until they have new processes in place. Nobody deflected or made excuses... until it was Linus' turn, and then while acknowledging that he responded out of emotion, immediately went emotional again and started deflecting and excusing their behavior. I get it, it's his baby, and he built it up from nothing to this media "empire." So I don't blame him for being emotional about it. But recognize that you're emotional about it, and just... step back and shut up. Stop digging the hole deeper. Acknowledge you were wrong and then stop talking, let your team help you to make things right. |
| wraper:
--- Quote from: PlainName on August 16, 2023, 07:29:08 am --- --- Quote from: John B on August 16, 2023, 06:30:49 am --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on August 16, 2023, 05:44:58 am --- --- Quote from: John B on August 15, 2023, 10:17:42 pm ---The errors in their videos are more forgiveable than the monoblock fiasco. Linus can claim that it was sold in error (sorry, auctioned for charity), but the fact that it crossed anyone's mind to pawn off something like that rather than giving it back to the original owners speaks a lot to the mentality of the culture there. I think once they get big enough and get accustomed to large corporations throwing free stuff at them left right and centre, they lose perspective of the time and effort involved in other peoples products and labour. --- End quote --- I don't get the intense citicism here. They made a mistake, one time :-// --- End quote --- I can't speak to what it's like getting free stuff sent in, but does it really cross your mind after a review to sell items like that? --- End quote --- AIUI, Billet contacted LTT half an hour after he said the heatsink had been sold (it was their prototype so irreplaceable and certainly not disposable at a profit). LTT ignored them for four days, and then 10 minutes after GN had blown it open Linus personally contacted them to say it was auctioned and they would sort out recompense for Billet. Doesn't sound like a mistake to me. Sounds more like a freebie sink and fuck the vendors. --- End quote --- Auction money has gone to charity. However the gist of the Billet situation and the rest that was discussed is a gross negligence which happens because LMG made a business decision to push out more videos and maximizing profit than they can reasonably do whiteout knowingly making cutting corners as the normal way to do things. And the double down that Linus made about Billet before the GN video is outrageous. Linus yet again shat on a 2 guy startup and said he cannot be bothered to spend a few hundred bucks worth of labor to test it properly. Yet totally ignoring the fact that the effort that has gone into making this thing is worth way more than. And he just trashed the thing with no due diligence whatsoever, and doubled down on top of that. And then effing sold their prototype which must never happen for a prototype of not yet released product even if it's not one of a kind, which only makes it worse. Not to say Billet apparently provided their own 3090 Ti (correct GPU) for testing which got lost somewhere at LMG. |
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