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| Black Phoenix:
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on October 20, 2022, 09:30:32 am --- --- Quote from: HighVoltage on October 20, 2022, 09:04:41 am ---You never know until you test it. --- End quote --- Correct, but at ~70 bucks I'm not going to test it. Got plenty of screwdrivers around to do the jobs that need be done. --- End quote --- Plus there is already a thread about this screwdriver - https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/ltt-screwdriver-rewiev/ I'm more in the Wera field. I've been in situations that a common bit screwdriver is to short for the job in question. Their Kraftform Kompakt 62/33 (that already comes with a normal handle) and the 816 RA handle (bought in separate) make for me a better alternative, for not a lot more money than the LTT screwdriver. And, going by how the one from Wera they tested performed, I would not be surprised if this handle would not be the same but without the storage and extension. |
| HighVoltage:
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on October 20, 2022, 09:30:32 am --- --- Quote from: HighVoltage on October 20, 2022, 09:04:41 am ---You never know until you test it. --- End quote --- Correct, but at ~70 bucks I'm not going to test it. Got plenty of screwdrivers around to do the jobs that need be done. --- End quote --- I think I paid much more for the PB-Swiss, which is a really good one. |
| hans:
Replying to the overall discussion.. I take problem with calling us "peer pressure" and "pack behaviour" , but that in itself is already exchanging feelings for facts which may not be true. No not a "personal problem", but just in a critical view: could it be a case of a bunch of people agreeing with this, on their own individual morale and insight? In my opinion it's gaslighting to make such harsh judgements on people like this. We're all human, which by definition, we're at times subject to over a hundred different cognitive bias'. People regularly perform mentalization to make more rational decisions on how the interactions with our self and other humans are going. However this is not a process that can have a 24/7 uptime. When we get mad, we may break things or say mean things to even our loved ones. If we're sad, most of us may have a instinctive desire to isolate, while others may seek attention. If we're happy, we may be overly optimistic and enthusiastic which skews our judgements. If we're tired, then we put off people more quickly than they are used to. Everything is a gliding slope. But in general, we try to understand why someone is reacting in a certain way. Or we don't.. and then life becomes tough and hard. In terms of "mind-reading" it is indeed very difficult to do this over a digital communication medium. Several people can read the same words in a million different ways. But such confusion can also happen in real-life, but we've got a few more clues to work with. Or we can ask someone 1-on-1 about why they said something in the way they did. Good people you want to keep around are available to such discussions and are willing to understand both sides of the story, I think. The clues I was extrapolating was from previous posts. I made 1 comment about it and then went to contextual reply of the screwdriver. I agreed on half of your points.. it's a perfect way to get more branded products into the hands of people. But it's maybe not a bad product according to some reviews. And it also helps them (LTT) out a bit to expand. Coming back to my points about 'jealously': I question if there is an underlying tone on feelings of gratitude and 'deservation' for them. I think this was also conveyed in other threads. And I strongly don't agree with that. This is why I made such a strong statement. Yes it's hyped up. Yes it's from a social media company. Yes those guys seems like they have to learn everything on the job. But I don't think it's useful to dismiss their efforts straight away. Let me make similarly bold statement: look at the EEVblog DMMs. Aren't those also rebranded OEM meters with a few custom plastics/prints, a slightly altered (reduced?) feature set because of OEM monopolies, and that's it? How does that justify the mark-up? At least LTT did extensive in-house product design and engineering, even if it's based on an entry-level screwdriver that's now a bit polished and hyped up to end up in the mid-range pricing tier. However, I bet Dave also made trial calculations for designing his own equipment, but came to the conclusion it's not economically viable for a DMM. We've all heard the stories about how expensive this is for the portable PSU (which is a niche unique product) and the level of standards that Dave tries to achieve. I think a rebranded DMM is a very good alternative to: 1) Sell supporters of the channel something useful that they can use on a daily basis. 2) It's a step beyond "merch" which sounds more like 'fan material' 3) Have a sophisticated enough product that can uphold a decent mark-up, e.g. it's not a random commodity item that people can find a ton of alternatives for with the same price, features, and local in-stock. I cannot be sure of the intent of anyone in this thread, but I think "feeling corrected" is not my intent. It's also not the intent of this post. The word forgiveness comes to mind as well, as life is too short to drink bad wine, but I can't make the link to this discussion straight away. :) Anyhow, I will leave it this. --- Quote from: pcprogrammer on October 20, 2022, 06:07:28 am ---Oh yes you are the biblical man. The one talking about hypocrisy and not seeing his own. I should have known better. It is not possible to have a rational discussion with a man of god. But you are right it is best to leave it as is. You will be the first entry on my ignore user list. --- End quote --- I beg to differ. A colleague of mine is very religious but also one of the best listeners, non-judgemental and rational person I've come across. For sure he seeks his comfort and peace in his religion, while I'm open to hear his story and likewise stay away from judgements. I suppose it's not a common ground we share for our contacts outside work. We can share opinions and have good discussions. But nothing is black/white. |
| AndyBeez:
Meanwhile back on topic... Linus (and his friend Charlie Brown) is a portal for plugging stuff. Stuff we need, stuff we didn't known we needed and stuff we thought we needed, but never got round to using because we didn't need it in the end. Auto ratcheting screwdrivers have been around since... anyone? I think the 1920s? My ratchet screwdriver for PC use came from the bargain bin at Aldi, in the 90s. I also have a ratchetting Yankee Screwdriver, for those tight screw heads that would otherwise burn out the battery impact driver. I digress. There's lots of tools that can make you a real 'engineer' in the eyes of your peers. It just depends who your peers are. Anyway, feel free to rant over [the implicit sexism in] these accessories I'm not plugging that you will absolutelyneed to go with your $70 ratchet screwdriver. |
| Simon:
Just don't watch the channel like I do, I find most of his videos pointless but the guy has to make a living just like all of the TV channels I choose not to watch. |
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