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Lunar landing anniversary today
« on: July 20, 2022, 07:00:32 pm »
53 years ago today (7/20/1969 at 20:17 UTC) the Apollo 11 mission accomplished the first manned lunar landing.  I enjoy listening to the mission control audio in real time at this site: https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/
 

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2022, 09:24:21 pm »
Yep, today.
Right here in Australia though it is Thursday July 21st , not 20th. 7:25am as I post. The question I want to pose is what date should it be observed? Should the date depend on where you are located?
 

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2022, 09:26:30 pm »
That was a pretty amazing event.  I remember it. 
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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2022, 09:33:59 pm »
Yep, they landed on my 10th birthday. At the time, I took it as some kind of omen about what (and where) I might do for a job in decades to come. Little did I know!
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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2022, 09:38:19 pm »
Seems not worthy of a Google Doodle.
 

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2022, 12:03:57 am »
Seems not worthy of a Google Doodle.
If NASA had been into all this rainbow crap back in the day and planted such a flag on the moon you could bet your ass it would be all over Google.
https://fineartamerica.com/featured/pride-rainbow-lgbt-gay-pride-nasa-logo-csd-rainbow-flag-emilyb-lydon.html?product=sticker
 

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2022, 06:52:03 am »
They are waiting to celebrate the first female mission that Americans are promising to send in a few years.
The new flag of the United States will surely fly with them and then it will be all over Google ;D
 

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2022, 07:00:17 am »
Seems not worthy of a Google Doodle.
If NASA had been into all this rainbow crap back in the day and planted such a flag on the moon you could bet your ass it would be all over Google.
https://fineartamerica.com/featured/pride-rainbow-lgbt-gay-pride-nasa-logo-csd-rainbow-flag-emilyb-lydon.html?product=sticker

With the Republican Congressmen, it was the ones crying the loudest about persecuting the gays who were themselves gay.  I wonder about this guy...  He doth protest too much,  methinks.
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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2022, 10:41:50 am »
Yep, today.
Right here in Australia though it is Thursday July 21st , not 20th. 7:25am as I post. The question I want to pose is what date should it be observed? Should the date depend on where you are located?

It occurred at a quite specific time - and the time at which it occurred for each observer is completely dependent on the time zone of that observer.  For me, it was the middle of the day on the 21st - and it shall always be that.

Even in America, they annotate the time with the time zone.  I just apply the same logic, but on a global scale - after all, it was a global scale event!
 

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2022, 02:25:31 pm »
The time given is UTC

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2022, 11:23:00 pm »
I consider the lunar landing to be the most significant event in human history so far.

It is quite literally a crime against our own species that we have not gotten any humans past low earth orbit in 50 years. I believe I read a NASA estimate that in any given year there is a 1 in 2000 chance of a rogue space object striking the earth with sufficient energy to cause global effects. We should be striving toward getting off this rock as a matter of insurance, if for none of the other excellent reasons. Governments the world over are negligent for not pursuing this as one of their highest priorities.
 
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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2022, 12:40:47 am »
I find it to be a pretty amazing achievement, but I also feel like we've kind of "been there, done that". The difference in effort required to get men on the moon and bring them home vs the effort to get them anywhere else more interesting is astronomical. Mars is frankly kind of boring in my opinion, it's pretty much just a bigger much further away version of the moon and we already have numerous robots exploring that. The scale of the universe means that even travelling at the speed of light it's going to take a very long time to get anywhere likely to net any sort of major discoveries and unmanned probes are a lot more practical than a manned mission. Star Trek only works because they have warp propulsion and that unfortunately is likely to remain fiction unless we discover some fundamentally new aspect about how physics works.
 
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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2022, 04:18:30 am »
I consider the lunar landing to be the most significant event in human history so far.

Really?   More significant than the wheel?  Fire?  Vaccines?  Antibiotics? 


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It is quite literally a crime against our own species that we have not gotten any humans past low earth orbit in 50 years.


???  What do you expect from space travel other than a huge bill?


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I believe I read a NASA estimate that in any given year there is a 1 in 2000 chance of a rogue space object striking the earth with sufficient energy to cause global effects. We should be striving toward getting off this rock as a matter of insurance, if for none of the other excellent reasons. Governments the world over are negligent for not pursuing this as one of their highest priorities.

"Getting off this rock" is in no way useful to the 7 billion of us who will have to remain behind.  I've never understood why anyone thinks it is important to perpetuate the species by colonizing outer space.  Even if that were an important goal, we are so far from being able to accomplish that, it's not even a dream at this point.  Give it a few hundred more years and maybe we can take another look.  For now, there's no place we've identified as being remotely practical to go.
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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2022, 04:39:30 am »
Star Trek only works because they have warp propulsion and that unfortunately is likely to remain fiction unless we discover some fundamentally new aspect about how physics works.

Even as fiction, Star Trek is a bit ridiculous.  I guess I've never paid attention to whether they've left the galaxy, still, within the galaxy, you have to exceed the speed of light by huge factors to get around.  It's 52,000 light years across.  I know on Star Gate, they travel between galaxies, which is truly mind boggling distances, millions of light years. 

How did they put it in Hitchhiker's Guide?  '"Space," [the Hitchhiker's Guide] says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space.'

Something I just learned, is that there are galaxies so close, they appear larger than the moon! 

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap061228.html
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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2022, 07:08:53 am »
We should be striving toward getting off this rock as a matter of insurance, if for none of the other excellent reasons. Governments the world over are negligent for not pursuing this as one of their highest priorities.
If a single dollar can save a life of someone in a third world country yet so often doesn't happen, I can't see governments putting up millions of dollars per person to move those same people to some other planet. They are not of sufficient value to them. Q.E.D.
 

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2022, 07:24:48 am »
If you keep feeding those who can not feed themselves, what do you think it will happen in the long term?
They'll grow in numbers, then they'll come after your food.  I'm not speculating, this is happening already.

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2022, 08:07:22 am »
The logic is to turn whole world into a mouse utopia, which already worked to slow down overpopulation in some areas.
Funding volunteer to colonize the Moon or even Mars is also a good investment >:D
 

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2022, 04:58:46 pm »
Even as fiction, Star Trek is a bit ridiculous.  I guess I've never paid attention to whether they've left the galaxy, still, within the galaxy, you have to exceed the speed of light by huge factors to get around.  It's 52,000 light years across.  I know on Star Gate, they travel between galaxies, which is truly mind boggling distances, millions of light years. 

Keeping in mind that it is purely fiction, a speed of warp 9 is nearly 2,000 light years in a 24 hour period so I think that counts as exceeding the speed of light by "huge factors", that kind of speed would make such exploration practical if it were possible to do.
 

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2022, 05:58:43 pm »
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Even if that were an important goal, we are so far from being able to accomplish that, it's not even a dream at this point

A journey of a thousand miles starts with a first step.

Uh, but also:

https://despair.com/products/ambition?variant=2457295747
 

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2022, 07:31:38 pm »
It is quite literally a crime against our own species that we have not gotten any humans past low earth orbit in 50 year.

That is quite an odd statement. ;D

As others have said, while pretty fascinating, the point of doing that is a questionable use of resources.
 

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2022, 10:53:59 pm »
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Even if that were an important goal, we are so far from being able to accomplish that, it's not even a dream at this point

A journey of a thousand miles starts with a first step.

Uh, but also:

https://despair.com/products/ambition?variant=2457295747

You missed my point.  If there is nothing useful to do at the moment, then we should do that. 

What does the journey of a thousand light years start with?  The answer is not a single step.  I'd say it starts with waiting for Zefram Cochrane to invent the warp drive.  Until then, any efforts are just pissing into the wind.
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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2022, 03:44:33 am »
Yep, today.
Right here in Australia though it is Thursday July 21st , not 20th. 7:25am as I post. The question I want to pose is what date should it be observed? Should the date depend on where you are located?

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2022, 06:16:46 am »
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You missed my point.  If there is nothing useful to do at the moment, then we should do that.

There is nearly always something useful to do. Just finding out how not to die for an extended period can be useful!

Waiting for a warp drive to pop into existence is futile, even if one could exist. And suppose it did - we're not going to just hop on and find EarthII all ready for the first colonists. That's if we even last long enough for such a drive to be a twinkle in anyone's eye, which it won't be if we're sitting around waiting for something to happen before getting off our arse.

 

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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2022, 06:26:03 am »
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You missed my point.  If there is nothing useful to do at the moment, then we should do that.

There is nearly always something useful to do. Just finding out how not to die for an extended period can be useful!

Waiting for a warp drive to pop into existence is futile, even if one could exist. And suppose it did - we're not going to just hop on and find EarthII all ready for the first colonists. That's if we even last long enough for such a drive to be a twinkle in anyone's eye, which it won't be if we're sitting around waiting for something to happen before getting off our arse.

Sometimes I wonder, if the Russians had of kept going, if the US would have had by now a Antarctica-style moon base set up with regular visits/crew shifts like the space station.
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Re: Lunar landing anniversary today
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2022, 07:40:18 am »
There is something to be said for competition, but the biggies really need cooperation.
 


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