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james_s:

--- Quote from: rstofer on July 23, 2022, 05:12:32 pm ---If the species is to survive, locational diversity is required.  Otherwise we go the way of the dinosaurs.  Richard Feynman had something to say on this subject but I can't find the quote.

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I guess I never really understood why this is important. What is so special about our particular species that we need to try to ensure its survival after our planet is dead? It's not like you or I will survive, the vast majority of the billions of humans on this planet are going to die eventually and our civilizations will eventually crumble. What advantage is it to spread our species to other planets? The dinosaurs had a good run, we've been doing ok so far, we'll be gone eventually, nothing lasts forever. It's not going to rescue people on earth to find a new habitable planet, it's just going to create some new people somewhere else, and it's extremely unlikely that will ever succeed given the vast distance we would have to cover. I kind of see this as people grappling with their own mortality and not wanting to accept that none of us will exist forever. We should be trying to solve our problems right here on earth rather than focusing on finding somewhere else to go. I am quite confident that humans are going to create their own demise long before our planet becomes uninhabitable due to natural reasons.

james_s:

--- Quote from: rstofer on July 23, 2022, 06:41:14 pm ---One thing I like to point out:  The Moon landing on July 20th, 1969 should take "can't" out of the dictionary.  That word should be banned in all its forms:  written, spoken or thought.  There's no such thing as can't.

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I disagree. You can't create something from nothing. Do you think we could create an over-unity machine if we put the sort of effort into the project that was put into the moon missions? I don't think so. There are things that are difficult but achievable, and there are things that can't be done.

PlainName:

--- Quote ---I guess I never really understood why this is important. What is so special about our particular species that we need to try to ensure its survival after our planet is dead? It's not like you or I will survive
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It's built in. Propagating the species is the reason we can have sex, so it's not like we don't care (as a species).

And you're right that we personally won't be here for long, so why fart around with the climate stuff and anything else that takes more than 20-30 years? We won't be around to worry about what the next generation has to put up with.

But, for some reason, we do care. We do give a toss about what we're leaving our kids or even other people's kids. That's what's special about our species, if nothing else, and I don't see why that should be an issue. After all, if you don't want to be a part of that you can always check out early.

magic:

--- Quote from: james_s on July 23, 2022, 07:23:59 pm ---I guess I never really understood why this is important. What is so special about our particular species that we need to try to ensure its survival after our planet is dead? It's not like you or I will survive, the vast majority of the billions of humans on this planet are going to die eventually and our civilizations will eventually crumble. What advantage is it to spread our species to other planets?
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Individuals and populations like you are a self-correcting problem, even before taking dunkemhigh's advice.

You can thank you rationalist-neoliberal brainwashing for your feelings about life. Many such cases in your country, and a big reason why it totally sucks today.

RoGeorge:
The reason for why no Moon base:



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