Making Australians feel at home

[IanB]

my cosan came over from Aus and he didn't like it when I took him to one cricket match. Mind you, that was England vs Aus the last time there were over here 

You're good to go as long as your visitors don't come from India right now 

[Uncle Vernon]

Shame they're not here now -- I imagine watching the national cricket team make mincemeat of the tourists would be a welcome home comfort for an Australian

my cousin came over from Aus and he didn't like it when I took him to one cricket match. Mind you, that was England vs Aus the last time there were over here 

Neil

Seriously, you win the ashes four times in a century and you see that as bragging rights. 
But word is England's youth will scoop the pools in the new Olympic event the "Brick lob, Loot & Scarper!". 

[Uncle Vernon]

CAMRA (CAMpaign for Real Ale) believe that real ale is best enjoyed at round 12^oC because it's the average cellar temperature in southern England, where ale is traditionally made.

Why would you want beer the same temperature as your peak summer days?

ABCWHWB (Aussie Brew Consumers who hate Warm Beer) would love to inform CAMRA about the miracle of refrigeration, it came into widespread use around the world in the early 1900's, we are sure it will catch on in the UK sometime soon.

[baljemmett]

my cousin came over from Aus and he didn't like it when I took him to one cricket match. Mind you, that was England vs Aus the last time there were over here 

Seriously, you win the ashes four times in a century and you see that as bragging rights. 

That's why I said it'd make them feel at home to see the locals winning   Although we did take India's position at the top of the world Test rankings today so for now...

But word is England's youth will scoop the pools in the new Olympic event the "Brick lob, Loot & Scarper!". 

I wouldn't bet on it -- if there's one thing we English excel at, it's inventing sports that other countries always beat us at

[Frangible]

Fosters beer?


muhaha

Foster's, it's Australian for "Piss".

[Uncle Vernon]

Although we did take India's position at the top of the world Test rankings today so for now...

True and you've achieved it from within the laws of the game and without the use of bookmakers, blatant racism, or some rude knob with a lump in his helmet, all of which is to be applauded.

[IanB]

Foster's, it's Australian for "Piss".

[vk6zgo]

Of course,Brit beer of all kinds has moved on a bit from the days of the "Watneys Red Revolution",so I guess they are entitled to  rubbish Fosters!

It is often said that there is no bad beer---But Southwark comes close!(sorry South Aussies!)

"Fix" lager from Greece takes a bit of getting used to as well ! (I don't know if it is still made!)

Ditto for "Allsops", from the UK,which is probably defunct too!

Pubs & Grog shops are fairly cosmopolitan in OZ these days,so you can slowly immunise yourself against Pommy beer prior to a trip.

But seriously,I had a lot of good times drinking in pubs with my Pommy mates,way back when!

VK6ZGO

[RayJones]

If I were to go to the UK, I'd want to sample their beer in its natural environment. ie PUB.
Even if it was crap you can then consider it a worthwhile experience.

As for being offered a Foster's as I stepped off a plane, I think I'd turn around and ask the pilot to take me somewhere else.
WE DON'T EVEN SELL THAT CRAP HERE ANYMORE!!!!

Having been to Germany, I know they are great brewmeisters and would be expecially glad to sample any of their micro brewed stuff. 
I'm sure similar establishments must be in the UK?

[IanB]

If I were to go to the UK, I'd want to sample their beer in its natural environment. ie PUB.

Good man!

I'm sure similar establishments must be in the UK?

Absolutely. Just read the reviews and find the good places.

The thing about traditional ales in the UK, is they have flavour. If you chill the crap out of them, you can't taste them.

Australia makes a whole variety of excellent red wines that are enjoyed around the world. Would you insist on putting a good Shiraz in the fridge before drinking it?

[vk6zgo]

If I were to go to the UK, I'd want to sample their beer in its natural environment. ie PUB.

Good man!

I'm sure similar establishments must be in the UK?

Absolutely. Just read the reviews and find the good places.

The thing about traditional ales in the UK, is they have flavour. If you chill the crap out of them, you can't taste them.

Australia makes a whole variety of excellent red wines that are enjoyed around the world. Would you insist on putting a good Shiraz in the fridge before drinking it?

No,but I like white wine & Rose' cold!

Way back when,one of the pubs I went to in the UK kept their bottled beer in a crate behind the bar (room temp),so if you didn't like what was on tap,that was your other choice.
If I remember correctly,they had Carling Black Label,Heinekens & Watney's Pale Ale in bottles.

We managed to talk Maisie (Real name!!) into keeping a couple of bottles in the 'fridge for us,as regulars.
The Carling & Heinekens never had much flavour anyway---You can rubbish Fosters all you want,but you can taste it,& smell it when you open it!
Watney's Pale Ale was quite nice,but we still preferred it cold.If we got a hot one,we put it outside on the windowsill to cool down in the winter---second floor,so no worries that some passer-by might get a free treat!

Then there were the food places which sold lager with a meal-----if you wanted it cold,they dropped iceblocks in it!

VK6ZGO

[IanB]

Carling, Heineken and Watney's Pale Ale are not to be confused with proper beer. CAMRA has been along since then. Ice cubes in lager? This is a long-forgotten England I can scarcely believe existed, yet I guess it once did.

Lest anyone be confused, this is the kind of real ale that is worth tasting, especially if hand pulled from the cask in a pub that knows how to look after and serve its beer: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/71/219

[Zero999]

CAMRA (CAMpaign for Real Ale) believe that real ale is best enjoyed at round 12^oC because it's the average cellar temperature in southern England, where ale is traditionally made.

Why would you want beer the same temperature as your peak summer days?

ABCWHWB (Aussie Brew Consumers who hate Warm Beer) would love to inform CAMRA about the miracle of refrigeration, it came into widespread use around the world in the early 1900's, we are sure it will catch on in the UK sometime soon.

You've obviously neither been to the UK in summer nor have had real ale so you're obviously not in the position to comment.

In reality, the average peak summer temperature in southern England is 22^oC and we have real beer over here, not to be confused with shitty lager.

The thing about traditional ales in the UK, is they have flavour. If you chill the crap out of them, you can't taste them.

I think you've hit the nail on the head there. Real ale has flavours which you simply can't taste if it's chilled below about 10^oC.

Although I'm not a wine drinker myself, I suppose it's like red vs white wine; red is supposed to be served at cellar temperature and white at refrigerator temperature.

[Uncle Vernon]

Australia makes a whole variety of excellent red wines that are enjoyed around the world. Would you insist on putting a good Shiraz in the fridge before drinking it?

At times yes, though usually only in extreme weather.  There are a million books and as many snobs who'd suggest you shouldn't but lightly chilled Red can be just the shot on a hot summer night.  Likewise if your intending on keeping an opened red for more than a few day, refrigeration can be the shot. Mind you I've never know a good opened red to last more than an hour or so.

For those suggesting you can get English Ales in Australia, your being had, most are a Carton & United Slops with an English label and a price premium. Tall cans of Guinness and Killkenny being the only UK exceptions, but the odds of getting fresh ones here, are very slim. Ditto for German, Dutch and Danish Beers, ask to read the labels before mortgaging your house for a slab of imported.

[Uncle Vernon]

In reality, the average peak summer temperature in southern England is 22^oC

Pathetic! Can see why you guys will never need reflectors on your bicycle clips when wearing shorts.

and we have real WARM beer over here

Real ale has flavours which you simply can't taste if it's chilled below about 10^oC.

If you drink warm beer all the time I'm surprised you can taste anything. 

[Zad]

There are plenty of clubs on every UK high street which will gladly dispense tasteless piss lager at close to 0C in large quantities for not much money if you so wish. There will also be no shortage of teenage girls around you too, willing to offer you an interesting time at the STD clinic in a few months.

On the other hand, adults here generally prefer to drink beer for taste, not to get off their manboobs as fast as they can. Being a Yorkshireman I may be biased towards Theakston's, Black Sheep and Timothy Taylor's (but not Tetley which is pretty much concentrated burps in a mug). 

Don't forget to put up all your Kylie and Jason Donovan posters

[Uncle Vernon]

Being a Yorkshireman I may be biased towards Theakston's, Black Sheep and Timothy Taylor's

Having seen examples of Yorkshirewoman your penchant for darker livestock and chaps named Tim could be almost understable. If you draw the ire of a local constable, you could use the Kiwi defence of "Honest officer I was only helping it over the fence!". 

[vk6zgo]

There are plenty of clubs on every UK high street which will gladly dispense tasteless piss lager at close to 0C in large quantities for not much money if you so wish. There will also be no shortage of teenage girls around you too, willing to offer you an interesting time at the STD clinic in a few months.

On the other hand, adults here generally prefer to drink beer for taste, not to get off their manboobs as fast as they can. Being a Yorkshireman I may be biased towards Theakston's, Black Sheep and Timothy Taylor's (but not Tetley which is pretty much concentrated burps in a mug). 

Don't forget to put up all your Kylie and Jason Donovan posters

I'm way past teenage girls,& what's new?
They had scungy clubs back in the 1970s too!

The point is that the reason the lager they sell is tasteless is because of the choice of brands they sell,rather than the temperature.
Australian,American,& Canadian lager,if you drink them cold,have distinct flavours,although maybe a bit delicate for those brought up on the more assertive flavours of British Dishwater draft ale.

Many young Aussies & Brits drink to get completely pissed,so it doesn't really matter what the beer tastes like,but for OFs like myself,there is nothing nicer on a 37 degree C day,to roll into a pub,& enjoy a nice coldy!!
I found years ago,anything much hotter than that,& you really have to have a  Pub Squash first!

VK6ZGO