| General > General Technical Chat |
| Man fined for criticizing govt using science, without a license |
| << < (21/63) > >> |
| grumpydoc:
--- Quote from: coppice on April 27, 2017, 01:21:59 pm --- --- Quote from: grumpydoc on April 27, 2017, 09:35:11 am ---Even trying to protect Doctor is difficult - anyone with a PhD can legitimately entitle themselves "Doctor". I believe that the current legally protected term in the UK is "Registered Medical Practitioner". --- End quote --- I seem to remember that in the UK it is strictly only PhDs who are allowed to call themselves Doctor, however common it may be for medical people to call themselves that. --- End quote --- No, it's OK for medical doctors to call themselves Doctor, quite a few will have doctorate level degrees anyway. |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: langwadt on April 27, 2017, 09:21:03 am ---here engineer is not a protected title, anyone can call themselves engineer, though it generally means a Bsc or Msc in an engineering field. --- End quote --- Here is the rub: The title engineer (or any other title for that matter) is a vocational title, and as such should reflect what your current vocation is, not what qualifications you hold. Like someone said before, a freshly minted graduate who has not done a single days engineering work in their life (professional or otherwise) is not an engineer. They have engineering qualifications, and can probably call themselves an "Engineer by qualification", or "Engineering graduate", but not "Engineer". Engineer implies a vocation to me, and I'd be pretty sure most people if they actually thought about it. The Institute of Engineers Australia (IEA) seem to agree: https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/For-Individuals You are a "Graduate Engineer" until you "level up" with vocational experience to be a "Professional Engineer" a.k.a simply "Engineer" And IIRC, to get certified as a Professional Engineer with the IEA you have to prove substantial work experience, otherwise you forever remain a "Graduate Engineer" if all you have is that bit of paper. Likewise someone who has a B.Eng and has worked for 30 years as *insert other unrelated profession here* is not an engineer. I have formal qualifications in personal training/fitness instructing but I have never worked as one, so I don't go around saying I'm a personal trainer. That would misrepresent what I do / have done as a vocation. At some point, regardless of your qualifications, to most people's interpretation of a vocational title you would become a "former engineer" or back to "qualified engineer" if you haven't worked in anything engineering related for *insert however many years here*. And this is why it silly to say someone who doesn't have qualifications is not an engineer if they actually work as an engineer as a vocation. And more so if a company or peers have vetted and hired the and given them the vocational title of engineer. |
| brucehoult:
--- Quote from: Hero999 on April 27, 2017, 08:36:17 am ---Talking of red lights. As a motorcyclist myself, I often get frustrated because my bike is too small for some traffic lights to detect. This means that I sometimes have to run a red, otherwise wait indefinitely because it will never turn green. I had to do this last night at some temporary lights. I'd been waiting there for over 5 minutes, there was nothing coming the other way and a queue of traffic was building up behind me. In the end I preceded with caution. When I got through the lights and checked my rear view mirror the other side was red too! --- End quote --- If you treat the red light with at least as much caution as you would a stop sign then you will be fine legally, at least in NZ. Certainly waiting more than one minute with no other vehicles in sight is quite unnecessary. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: Hero999 on April 27, 2017, 08:36:17 am ---Talking of red lights. As a motorcyclist myself, I often get frustrated because my bike is too small for some traffic lights to detect. This means that I sometimes have to run a red, otherwise wait indefinitely because it will never turn green. I had to do this last night at some temporary lights. I'd been waiting there for over 5 minutes, there was nothing coming the other way and a queue of traffic was building up behind me. In the end I preceded with caution. When I got through the lights and checked my rear view mirror the other side was red too! --- End quote --- I don't mind that, I've had to do it a few times myself when the system didn't detect my car for one reason or another. The thing that annoys me is when a light turns red and several more cars rush through, or in the case of the guy I knew who got hit, the car didn't bother to stop in the first place. As long as you stop first and carefully assess the situation, go ahead and go through if it's clear that nobody is coming and the light is probably malfunctioning. |
| metrologist:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 27, 2017, 02:14:18 pm ---Here is the rub: The title engineer (or any other title for that matter) is a vocational title, and as such should reflect what your current vocation is, not what qualifications you hold. --- End quote --- I wonder if you still consider yourself an Engineer? Maybe you are now an Actor? Producer and etc, because that's what you do. Maybe you still engineer something? Maybe you are engineering success :D |
| Navigation |
| Message Index |
| Next page |
| Previous page |