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Man fined for criticizing govt using science, without a license
vodka:
--- Quote from: josecamoessilva on April 27, 2017, 03:24:51 am ---When I graduated EECS (circa the Paleozoic), I got a letter from the Portuguese "order of engineers" telling me about all the great things they would do for me and all the things I couldn't do without joining. They wanted more in yearly dues than the IEEE, ACM, and AAAI put together (all of which I was a member of), so I never replied.
One time some representatives of the order were visiting our school for some even day and on a panel discussion one said that "some of your professors aren't real engineers" (because not members of the order) to which I grabbed a mic and asked a few basic EECS questions. The kind that students knew the answer to.
I'll let you guess what happened. >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Diplomacy, never my forte.
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The "Order of enginers" are seemed to the our "Profesional colleges" but more aggavated due to the 17 kingdom of Taifas with their respective provinces besides faced among them(inclusive on the same province with other profesional college).
For example, The Engineer technical industrial college and Agronomist college terminated on the court for deciding who of the two colleges had the competence for designing the structure building of the a farm.
Here according to Plutocrats or Caste for can to work,you must to sign to college and pay the "PIZZO" monthly or semmiannual. But done the law , done the cheat ,there are many engineering that work without signing projects. When they have to sign the project,there are two options: Sign to college ,pay the pizzo and enter to secta(*) or his boss or companion sign his project.
*secta:Once time that you sign with a professional college , you never never never can sign off or delete, only cease the activity during some time .
And if you want to work other time, you must to pay the revolutionary tax for the years without working plus the corresponding fee.
AndyC_772:
The story has made The Register now:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/29/engineer_fined_for_talking_about_math/
CatalinaWOW:
Part of my response to this was to investigate becoming registered in Oregon. I had not paid serious attention to the process for nearly four decades since I passed the EIT and then became too busy with family and career to finish the PE license.
First, relative to many of the comments, there is an exam specifically for Software Engineers and one for Electronics Engineers. Not like when I last looked and those two disciplines were the red headed step children of Electrical Engineering.
In the US many, maybe all, states have normalized on exams performed by a national organization NCEES. Didn't look too closely into it, but they appear to be a commercial test service. Tests are given a couple of times a year, and cost $225. It is a day long, open book test. Lots of rules which are the obvious bureaucratic response to specific attempts to gain advantage in the past. Some seem silly. I would have to buy a new calculator since none of the many I have is on the approved list. Slide rules are specifically outlawed :-\. When I took the EIT I brought my slide rule as backup in case of battery failure. Not an option now.
If I pass the test (not really worried, I will do some review study) there would be another couple hundred dollars registration fee, followed by a re-up fee every couple of years. I saw no evidence of a requirement for training to stay up to date.
One interesting fact. Only about three quarters of the board controlling registration in Oregon are registered professional engineers. Apparently you need higher qualifications to perform engineering that to oversee the quality of that performance.
james_s:
Why on earth would they not let you use a slide rule? Not a whole lot of people left who even know how to use one in the first place.
Tom45:
--- Quote from: james_s on April 29, 2017, 04:31:26 pm ---Why on earth would they not let you use a slide rule? Not a whole lot of people left who even know how to use one in the first place.
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They should give extra credit for people that use a slide rule.
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