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Man fined for criticizing govt using science, without a license
coppice:
--- Quote from: Red Squirrel on April 26, 2017, 10:35:24 am ---That's freaking ridiculous. Having to be "registered" to practice engineering is a thing... wow. I don't want to live on this planet anymore. Seriously, this kind of stuff pisses me off and it's all over. So much ridiculous legislation like this everywhere you turn and it's only getting worse.
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Its common around the world that civil/structural engineers need to be registered and licenced. Since public safety rests on their work, its not unreasonable, and the licencing rules were often the result of some nasty incidents of poor engineering. Electronics is an oddity. Almost all electronic equipment is designed by people with no professional licencing, but the people doing the simple installation and maintenance of such equipment frequently do require a licence.
T3sl4co1l:
Let's get some hot tasty reference in here:
https://www.nspe.org/sites/default/files/resources/pdfs/state-by-state-summary-licensure-law-exemptions.pdf
Looks like the guy is OK to "practice", given the typical EE activities and market. ;D
Tim
mikeselectricstuff:
I would have though that any licensing requirements of "practising as an engineer" type regulation should only cover work done for payment or in thecourse of a job, which clearly doesn't apply here.
BrianHG:
--- Quote from: donotdespisethesnake on April 26, 2017, 09:53:09 am ---When people buy electronics, they must be assured it is made by a licensed electronics engineer, and not just someone who happened to learn electronics at home and now calls themselves an electronics engineer.
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Funny, I'm just that. I've developed automatic food packaging machine electronics, a CATV converter, a video stabilizer & enhancer for analog VCRs, a 24 bit video card for the Amiga home computer, a 3D stereoscopic glasses and interface, and multiformat video scaler, all which passed UL safety certification and FCC approvals and I sold them. Now I do not have some sort of license for electronic engineering, I'm self taught at home. Are you saying I should be put in jail?
What about all the software apps made by self taught programmers with successful software, never earning a software engineering degree, should they go to jail or be fined? If a poorly developed program crashes a computer system which delegates important stuff, money can be lost, or someone's safety may be at risk.
BrianHG:
--- Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on April 26, 2017, 11:11:06 am ---I would have though that any licensing requirements of "practising as an engineer" type regulation should only cover work done for payment or in thecourse of a job, which clearly doesn't apply here.
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You are correct. The key here is 'engineers hired by the state, or an engineer contracted by the state requires the engineer to be licensed...' This makes more sense, especially from a liability standpoint. He should have been able to get out of the 500$ fine easily since he didn't do such a thing. But when it comes to law, and wording, he fell into a trap and without proper legal council in the matter, which would cost more than the 500$ fine, he's sorta stuck.
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