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Man fined for criticizing govt using science, without a license
Elf:
I live not too far away and used to work in Beaverton, and can confirm what Richard Crowley is saying. These cameras make the news every single year and there is no end to the number of complaints about Beaverton specifically. Not only with the red light cameras, but with speed trap vans, etc. the Beaverton police seem to be mostly revenue focused.
Next-door Portland also has red light cameras but they are not the subject of as many complaints.
james_s:
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--- Quote from: james_s on July 01, 2017, 12:14:20 am ---The purpose of the yellow light is to give drivers sufficient time to make a decision then either come to a stop safely, or get through the intersection before it turns red.
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No. The yellow light is a warning that the light is about to turn red. The delay is to give traffic already in the intersection time to clear. It is expected that once the light turns yellow, you are to stop.
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So you're supposed to slam on your brakes the moment the light turns yellow and hope that you come to a stop before you skid into the intersection? How does that make sense versus what I said? When the light turns yellow you make a decision to either stop or proceed based on whether you can safely come to a complete stop before reaching the intersection. That's going to depend on the speed of travel, the braking abilities of the vehicle and the distance you are from the intersection and the road conditions at the time. Obviously a road with a 50MPH speed limit should have considerably longer yellow lights than a street with a 25MPH limit. Having somewhat consistent yellow intervals greatly aids in making the decision whether to stop.
brucehoult:
Seems he's won a bit of a victory...
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/08/oregon_will_let_engineer_refer_to_himself_as_engineer/
KJDS:
--- Quote from: james_s on April 26, 2017, 05:08:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: Hero999 on April 26, 2017, 04:59:03 pm ---I have sworn an oath, just as doctors. They say "do no harm", I said "protect safety and health of people". If you did not do this, you are not entitled to call yourself an engineer, it is unethical.
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When did you do that?
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That would create an interesting dilemma for engineers that design firearms and military equipment.
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I phoned an insurance company to sort out some new professional indemnity insurance and they asked me if the product could kill if it went wrong.
Once I'd explained that it was supposed to kill people when it was working they decided not to offer any cover.
Doctors in the UK no longer swear the Hyppocratic oath, and haven't for years
IanMacdonald:
Require that the officials calling themselves 'engineers' demonstrate their ability to correctly and safely operate one of these. Any who cannot, pay Järlström $500. :-DD
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