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| soldar:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on July 14, 2019, 09:26:44 am ---I thought this issue was done and he won? He's back in federal court? :-// --- End quote --- The previous video explains it. They fined him $500 "for "impersonating an engineer". He appealed and he won and they returned his money but they basically said they were just being nice and did not accept that the law or regulation was being interpreted wrong and so this ruling did not apply to others who had been fined in the past or others who could be fined in the future. So the issue is being escalated not because he wants his $500 back because he already got the money, it is being appealed on the principle of the matter. They returned his fine money as a way to defuse the matter and maintain the principle that they are entitled to fine people who do such things. What is being debated now is whether a person can express an opinion regarding an engineering matter while not holding an engineering degree. |
| ruffy91:
Ha! This will solve other problems as well. "Can't critizise the president if you're not a president yourself." |
| iMo:
"I am an engineer.." means nothing from legal point of view, imho. It is like to write "I am a vocalist".. He would violate laws almost anywhere in the world if he wrote "I am a master of science in electrical engineering" or "I am MSc. EE" or in Europe "I am an Ing. in EE" or "I am a Dipl.-Ing. in EE" etc. He had to indicate a "legal" academic title. Thus the whole Case is a joke.. |
| wilmer:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 26, 2017, 01:44:49 pm --- --- Quote from: NANDBlog on April 26, 2017, 01:39:03 pm ---I did not read this before. If this is true, than probably he just did not register at the Oregon State Board of Examiners for Engineering. In fact, I change my mind, Oregon can fuck off. So if I would go there, not register myself, I wouldn't be allowed to use my title? --- End quote --- I'd be extending the big middle finger too. Most practicing EE's in oz are not members of the Institute of Engineers Australia for example, nor is it a requirement for practically any EE job in the country. They have a fancy Chartered Professional Engineer title, but it's well known that only wankers have that ;D --- End quote --- But in Australia, if you do the crime of been electrical engineer and connect a wire at your home. You can get a fine of 1 million. Sent from my Nokia 3.1 using Tapatalk |
| soldar:
--- Quote from: ruffy91 on July 14, 2019, 11:37:08 am ---Ha! This will solve other problems as well. "Can't critizise the president if you're not a president yourself." --- End quote --- As ridiculous as it sounds it is not a new argument. People in power lose touch with reality and believe they are the law. In Spain speech is being curtailed by the courts with the most ridiculous arguments. Some years ago a professional actor, expressing disagreement with the actions of the mayor of a town said that the mayor was an idiot, that he had not read a book in his life and that he would drown in his own shit. The bad news is that the actor was sued and lost an he was condemned to pay a fine and the appeal to the Supreme Court confirmed the verdict. The good news is that the judicial process in Spain is so fucking slow that by the time the verdict was ratified the actor had been dead for over a year. The verdict explicitly stated that the speech could not be considered to be protected political speech because the actor was not a politician himself. He was not in political competition with the mayor and therefore had no right to question his actions and much less to insult him. I think most people are just not aware of the implications and the stupidity of these verdicts which are being handed down every other day in Spain. Any expression which is in disagreement with the official line of thinking and you risk being sued for insulting somebody's "honor" (like we are still in the middle ages), for expressing "hate", for invading another person's privacy, or for any number of other invented imaginary crimes. The case object of this thread is surprising because it happened in America because in Spain the law is whatever the guy in charge says it is. |
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